Getting Sirius and A Dogfight Debriefing-

Channeled (06/07/1994)

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Archivist Notes: For the month of April we have a shorter summary than usual but for us it has been a shorter month than normal. The theme of the session is improving my skills by asking for each speaker to set tasks to train up on each week. With Kiri it was work on my patience while with Tia it was looking for a place locally based on what she got from Mark about the Lord of the Rings.

On side two, Omal takes over and his task was get a flame to bend using my mind and hold it for ten seconds. Not the easiest of tasks though it was far easier than trying to manifest a penny. He also relays a dogfight where a pilot was killed. He and Wing Commander Tall were jumped and faced overwhelming odds. Karra follows after and needs some help with her shoulder. We also plan for our bonding ceremony such as my going to Sirius to check with her father. Tia wraps things up with a discussion about her kids.  

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

SPEAKERS
ATTENDEES
TIA- Ring Mistress MARK CROCKER (Channel)
KIRI RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
OMAL
KARRA






SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Kiri and I go over a new learning program where I would be getting a lesson a week from each to improve on each topic. We also discuss her son and the time spent in the crèche with the other kids.
2.)(19:49)- Tia sets a task for me to try to improve my astral travel which to find a set of rocks that are similar to a seat on a mountain in Lord of the Rings. We get an update on her kids and their unusual birth.

SIDE 2

1.)(0:00)- Omal gives me a manifestation task of bending the flame of a candle over for ten seconds. Another topic is a recent dogfight where a pilot lost his life and Wing Commander Taal was almost killed.
2.)(18:12)- Karra and I discuss going to the local Renaissance fair where I will be working and she would be linked to me. There is a lot going on in the channeling room that she narrates as it happens.
3.)(10:21)- Tia talks about a task she's been given by Korton about the complete historical record of Glastonbury from its inception to the present day. That project is complicated by the myths and legends.

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SIDE ONE


(Kiri covers for Tia until she arrives)


Kiri: hey Russ, can you do me a favor?

Russ: sure.

Kiri: put one finger there and one finger there and say red backwards. Go on.

Russ: der?

Kiri: yep, that's about it. So, what do you want to know dude?

Russ: well darling, tonight is a historic night.

Kiri: in what way?

Russ: tonight we launch into a whole new phase of learning.

Kiri: you've been talking to big sis again, haven't you?

Russ: I think she's been talking to me I figure.

Kiri: been lecturing you, oh dear, what she's done this time?

Russ: well, the new phase of learning.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you'll like this, is titled getting Sirus.

(Kiri bursts out laughing)

Kiri: that's a terrible pun.

Russ: she liked it, what can I say?

Kiri: well it's to be expected with such a simpleminded individual.

Russ: I am not simpleminded.

Kiri: no, Karra is.

Russ: well, you're the one who has to put up with her.

Kiri: yeah, I can say that because I'm her little sis and I could out coerce her any day.

Russ: well, let's hope you don't get sick anytime soon.

Kiri: I've got to take special care of myself.

Russ: gonna break your arm she's going to set it so it looks like your leg. You'll walk with your knuckles dragging.

Kiri: that would be good for hitting people that deserve it. Facetious children.

Russ: you don't have any.

Kiri: I can think of one.

Russ: no you can't.

Kiri: I'm looking right at him.

Russ: there's nobody else in here but this crystal. You are insulting my crystals?

Kiri: I'll insult whatever I want to.

Russ: a male crystal.

Kiri: it's got no brains then like most males I know. They think with one thing.

Russ: hey, it's a bigger head than you've got.

(Russ laughs)

Kiri: but I've got more brains in mine. I've got more.......

Russ: no, I don't think so, I think these heads have got far more brains than what you're trying to pull off.

Kiri: ha ha. Come on, let's get on, let's get serious.

Russ: getting serious, yes, absolutely. Okay, anyway, the........

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes, I am acting as ring mistress temporarily.

Russ: it's almost self-evident.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: okay, what we're going to get into is a basic structured lesson goal oriented teaching program.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and well, basically Mark and I are students.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: I anyway at least. Mark will pick it up as he hears it and practice if he wants. Okay, now what I wanted to start doing is going ahead and getting from each person on the weekly basis that we do, a short little lesson each Tuesday let's say.....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: that we can set a goal by that I could work on and progressively get better.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, some of the lessons that we're working on or could work from are things that you have possibly done when you were starting. Stuff that's loaded into the computer.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all of course has to be okayed by Omal possibly.

Kiri: yeah, I can give you one to start off with....

Russ: okay.

Kiri: a lesson in patience. Both of you could use learning that.

Russ: that's great. That's what we're looking for is goal oriented stuff we can use......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and have something to strive for for next Tuesday.

Kiri: okay, learning patience.

Russ: learning patience, great way to start.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: can we hurry up this please? Let's get going. Is this going to take long?

Kiri: and I've got to learn how to deal with such a low, low life form. In fact, you're so low you've got to reach up to the ground.

Russ: maybe a lesson in humor for me maybe. Some jokes that are funny.

Kiri: I've got some good jokes.

Russ: I want to hear them all. When I make the jump from 3rd to 5th.

Kiri: okay. Yeah, they're a cross between visual and mental so that it would be hard.

Russ: I'll bet. Fair enough. Okay, lesson in patience.

Kiri: okay. Lesson in patience, how to be patient? When you come across somebody that is infuriating or talkative that babbles on and on and repeats themselves, just listen to them and smile sweetly and think of something else.

Russ: something else?

Kiri: think how you can turn their irritation to your advantage.

Russ: an example please?

Kiri: I know, gentlemen you were talking with today.

Russ: Richard?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh.

Kiri: you're not very patient with him, are you?

Russ: no, you're absolutely right.

Kiri: uh-huh. And he does talk a lot, doesn't he?

Russ: yes, he does talk a lot.

Kiri: uh-huh. I'm getting through this part from big sis. And he does go around in circles.

Russ: very many.

Kiri: uh-huh. And ever decreasing circles apparently.

(Russ chuckles)

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: and when he's talking and he's going around and around in circles, what you can do is either try just being polite and going, "uh-huh,uh-huh" but say to him, "look, couple of minutes ago just said that. Shouldn't we move on?" Try to help him. Instead of having him go around and around in circles, say to him, "look, sometimes you repeat yourself and people find it irritating". Say to him, "I'm not trying to change you or anything but for a better persona for you is somebody that listens. I listen to what you have to say and I've noticed that you repeated yourself a couple times".

Russ: some constructive criticism.

Kiri: yeah, but very, very carefully so they don't get upset.

Russ: I see.

Kiri: I don't think this person that you were talking with would get too upset.

Russ: no.

Kiri: but he might wander off in a, what would you call......a huff?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: and he might think about it and go , "you know, he's right". Even though he's walked off in a huff he's learned something. But if he does walk off in a huff or anybody walks off in a huff, say to him, "look, think about it and come back and get back to me" or "I'll see you around" but be nice.
Russ: uh-huh. Okay, well I'm seeing him tomorrow so I'll see.

Kiri: oh, you can try that.

Russ: I can try that tomorrow.

Kiri: uh-huh. But you've got to word it very, very carefully. When he starts repeating himself for the first time, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: then you can think on how you are going to word it.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: you notice how patient Mark can be with people like that from time to time?

Russ: not really.

Kiri: watch him next time.

Russ: I'll try.

Kiri: uh-huh. But I don't get to watch that much unfortunately. I'm not like the watcher on the wall or the watcher on the ceiling.

Russ: okay. Good, so.....

Kiri: ahh good, she's arrived.

Russ: Tia?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, good.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: okay, that's a good start anyway so...........

Kiri: hold on a second, I've got to shuffle to the edge, she wants to sit next to me.

Russ: oh, good.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: okay, coercion.

Kiri: yes?

Russ: a beginning lesson on coercion I can work on for next week also.

Kiri: okay. Felines.

Russ: okay, felines it is.

Kiri: uh-huh. And what I want you to do is first of all is to get them to come towards you. Make eye contact and get them to come towards you which is real easy.

Russ: uh- uh.

Kiri: and then, when there with you, again get eye contact and make them go away.

Russ: okay. Fair enough. Okay.

Kiri: and if you're a real smarty-pants, you noticed the gray one came down here, sniffed around and then went away?

Russ: oh yeah, right. Anyway, how's Alex doing?

Kiri: oh, he's doing wonderful, wonderful.

Russ: good, trying to set fire to......

Kiri: wet, moldy leaves...........

Russ: wet moldy leaves, right.

Kiri: and grass.

Russ: is that a wise move?

Kiri: well, it focuses his farsighting abilities on something useful.

Russ: oh, so this is prescribed?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: you think we would do it without Omal's permission?

Russ: no, of course not.

Kiri: that's right. Yeah, we stressed and threatened him with spending six hours with Omal for a week.

Russ: I can't see that being a fate worse than death.

Kiri: oh, believe you me, it can be.

Russ: I'd live for it

Kiri: not when you're a little one and want to play and somebody that's been very sensible and serious.

Russ: ahh, I see. Okay, understandable.

Kiri: you've got to remember, he's only just over a year and a bit.

Russ: true, but he's got the intelligence of a six-year-old.

Kiri: uh-huh and that's when they're at their most playfulness.

Russ: true. Has he got any other play friends besides Karra and....

Kiri: yeah, playing in the crèche.

Russ: oh, the crèche?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: good.

Kiri: yeah, seemed to be very funny today. Very typical of a member of our family.

Russ: hmm, what's that?

Kiri: he debagged a little girl.

Russ: your little one bagged a little girl?

Kiri: debagged.

Russ: debagged a little girl.

Kiri: uh-huh, pulled down her underwear.

Russ: so she tripped or anything?

Kiri: yeah. She didn't quite understand what was going on. She's a member of another race. When I say she, it should be more it.

Russ: oh boy. Your little munchkin is getting into trouble, huh?

Kiri: yeah, taking after his mother.

Russ: ahh, yes, that was bound to happen sooner or later.

Kiri: well, she, he, its......... well, it can be either.

Russ: either?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: this isn't a race I'm familiar with I take it?

Kiri: no.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: and at the moment it's a she.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: and she grabbed Alex's toy.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: so Alex ran after her and she wouldn't give it back and she's a little bit bigger but not more advanced mentally.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: so Alex tried to get it off of her and she's taller, she just held it up like this, Alex just went booth. As she went down to grab him and he grabbed his toy. Is that smart or what?

Russ: you have got him teaching him at a good level.

Kiri: oh, I didn't teach him that. But you think of what he did.

Russ: yeah, I realize that it's a cause-and-effect kind of thing.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: but still, it seems like he had that lesson from somewhere. From visual......

Kiri: no, the children were never around when we had fun like that.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: most of the time they're either down in the crèche or in bed or we're in a different room. There's
always an adult keeping eye on him. Lyka, Tia or myself.

Russ: I see. Well, what did the crèche personnel think of his fun little stunt?

Kiri: some of them thought it was absolutely hilarious and others scolded him which was the worst thing they could have done.

Russ: why?

Kiri: he just pulled the rug out from underneath them using his PK.

Russ: oh geez.

Kiri: well, not PK, manifesting the rug moving.

Russ: so is he becoming the kid to look out for in the crèche nowadays?

Kiri: yes, he is a little bit. It's mainly boredom. There's so many children there......

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: and so few helpers that they kind of run amok. So we might have to take him into a special area where he learns more, keep his mind occupied.

Russ: well if you want, I can volunteer for crèche duty.

(Russ laughs)

Kiri: it's very kind of you to offer but I don't think so at the moment.

Russ: I just need a ride up there and I'd be more than willing to spend my days working in the crèche that I understand. Got a ways to go before I get out of the crèche myself.

Kiri: uh-huh. And there are some good looking........

Russ: crèche assistants?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yes, I can imagine. How come only guys working there? Or there are guys.....

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: but not that many?

Kiri: not that many.

Russ: oh, because there's more........it's not a sexist kind of job, is it?

Kiri: no, it's just that men aren't that interested in it. And he/she, he/she?

Russ: he/she.

Kiri: yeah, he/she.........androgynous.

Russ: yeah. Well, doesn't somebody like that need some special attention?

Kiri: how do you mean?

Russ: well for example, they're of a race that is that is coexisting with other races.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: doesn't that coexistence need to be nurtured or anything?

Kiri: no.

Russ: just let it run its own pace?

Kiri: yeah. We learn from them, they learn from us.

Russ: oh. Because see, we have the same problem down here.

Kiri: uh-huh. The only people that we've got to keep separate from the crèche is the young Wookies.

Russ: why, because they'll tear people's arms off?

Kiri: that's not too far from the truth. They tend to be a little bit more aggressive.

Russ: I'll bet they do.

Kiri: uh-huh. I mean, they don't know their own strength. No, I can't tell you that.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: so I mean, yeah, the children are quite often left to run riot down in the Wookie compound in the summer.

Russ: oh, that must be fun.

Kiri: uh-huh, and it's perfectly natural for them, they love it.

Russ: uh-huh. Yeah, I heard about the riot that got going with you and......

Kiri: there were a couple of them, maybe fully grown. Probably juveniles.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: but it's hard to tell when they get that big.

Russ: right. Hmm, okay. Now is there a language difficulties to be bridged or anything?

Kiri: yes there is.

Russ: how do you manage to bridge language difficulties? I think that would be a challenge all by itself.

Kiri: telepathy pictures.

Russ: really?

Kiri: uh-huh. We do have a common tongue we all speak.

Russ: oh, kind of like a Galactica kind of thing?

Kiri: yeah, kind of.

Russ: oh, I see. So, how do they get trained in this at such a young age? Just kind of work at telepathy and the mind pictures?

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: and then word association?

Kiri: uh-huh. And the fact that all the children are........except for the little Wooklings.....

Russ: Wooklings?

Kiri: yeah, the children communicate quite a bit so you'll get some children.........some child that speaks four or five different tongues.

Russ: hmmm.

Kiri: and here's an interesting thing, I was in the crèche this morning, right? And there was a little boy that isn't Sirian, talking in Sirian to his mother who isn't Sirian who was talking in their native language.

Russ: that must've been an interesting conversation.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: and she understood him?

Kiri: yeah, and he understood her.

Russ: because it was part telepathy and part......

Kiri: no, there was no telepathy going on at all.

Russ: she doesn't know Sirian?

Kiri: oh yeah, she knows Sirian.

Russ: oh, I see. But neither one were Sirian but they're both speaking Sirian.

Kiri: no, she was speaking her native language....

Russ: oh.

Kiri: and he was speaking Sirian.

Russ: oh, I get it, I get it.

Kiri: uh-huh and they understood each other perfectly.

Russ: ahhh, okay.

Kiri: one of Omal's girls. Not literally.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: works under Omal.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: she's a communicator.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: uh-huh. She was helping in the crèche.

Russ: ahhh.

Kiri: you see that cat come in?

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: look over, make eye contact and go away again?

Russ: that's very good Kiri.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: you're getting better at that coercive stuff.

Kiri: it's a workout. Okay.....

Russ: okay.

Kiri: any more questions?

Russ: that's it for now.

Kiri: okey-dokey. I'm out of here.

Russ: okay, bye.






(Tia gets back and takes over as ring mistress)



Russ: well hello Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Russ: how's it going?

Tia: I just got back from the med lab and Lyka's there, she's still a little bit groggy. Mark's down there.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: they've done some surgery on her face. She looks more like a younger Lyka but with higher cheek bones and her ears have been rounded off so she looks almost humanoid. They've given her a little bit bigger chest.

Russ: she likes that I'll bet.

Tia: uh-huh. She's very sensitive around her chest at the moment.

Russ: I'll bet.

Tia: and her cheekbones are higher. They've given her some shots to make her skin fairer and her hair will turn fairer too.

Russ: so can you recognizer as Lyka or Lyka's sister or something?

Tia: more like Lyka's sister.

Russ: her sister.

Tia: yeah, younger Lyka's sister. Yeah, sister but of the same age.

Russ: I get it, kind of like twins but......

Tia: not a twin.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: did she fill you in on what's going on?

Tia: who?

Russ: Kiri.

Tia: oh, you want a lesson.

Russ: yes, we're doing getting Sirius time.

Tia: how about getting Durondedunn? Okay, lesson, let's see.

Russ: now, what I was thinking of well, I was going to ask Omal.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: if one of his part of his lessons he could give to Mark would be an astral projection blessing geared to Mark's level possibly. He finds them challenging with it maybe. I don't know, but I thought it might be workable. But for yourself, I wanted to see if you have a goal I could work on reaching for next Tuesday.

Tia: yes........

Russ: oh good.

Tia: and it is a very, very simple one.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: it's a seek and find mission.

Russ: seeking find.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: now I want you to find, right?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: a place up high, you've got to do some reasoning, where you can sit and view your local world.

Russ: local as in Tahoe.......

Tia: yes.....

Russ: or like planet Earth?

Tia: as in Tahoe. Find a seat as sit and sit and view.

Russ: okay, is it an actual seat or just like a rock or something?

Tia: it's an actual seat......

Russ: an actual seat.

Tia: but it's like a rock.

Russ: it's like a rock.

Tia: or rocks.

Russ: rocks.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: and, here's another clue to go with it.

Russ: great.

Tia: okay? The falls of Rauros......is that right?

Russ: huh?

Tia: from the Lord of the Rings, the falls?

Russ: oh, the falls of Rauros.

Tia: Rauros.......okay, will remind you of this seat.

Russ: you mean Elendil's chair, or something like that?

Tia: no, it's not, but I could be pulling your leg.

Russ: okay, this should be interesting.

Tia: uh-huh. Do you want a clue on the direction?

Russ: sure.

Tia: okay, look from there to there.

Russ: okay, we're looking for a place, a seat on the
Rauros, rocks, chair like.....

Tia: uh-huh. Let's make it a little bit easier in your range. Okay, from Northeast to Southeast.

Russ: oh.

Tia: instead of giving you a whopping hundred eighty degrees to check.......

Russ: I think I've been there already.

Tia: well check it out and tell me.

Russ: well, wait a minute, just so I can know whether I've got it or not. Is it on top of a mountain or is it on the lake by the lake shore next to a road?

Tia: no.

Russ: okay, so it's on top of a mountain.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, I've been there.

Tia: it's not on top of a mountain either.

Russ: and it's not next to a road?

Tia: no.

Russ: okay, well I'll look around, see what I can find.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, good.

Tia: because the mountains and the peaks around here, like the high points.

Russ: I'll know everything between the peaks too.

Tia: hmmm, you could say it is on top of a mountain then.

Russ: okay, fair enough. I'll do some searching.

Tia: uh-huh. Like you got Mount Pluto a peak over there, then you got the one that's like a pyramid next to it.

Russ: Pyramid Peak.

Tia: yeah you've got what's it? Two sisters?

Russ: no, that's Maggie's twins.

Tia: Maggie's twins?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: then you've got Monument Peak?

Russ: Monument Peak which is Heavenly.

Tia: then Mount Rose.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. I shall do some searching. Anyway, on with the show.

Tia: uh-huh.

(Tia sings a little jingle)

Tia: I'm getting back to normal now.

Russ: okay good.

Tia: after an adrenaline pump.

Russ: all right, so we've got the Emerald trick coin.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: between now and Tuesday find that.

Tia: yes, uh-huh.

Russ: okay, good. And since we won't be having a Friday night session, I'll be in Sacramento at that time.

Tia: that's right, I know.

Russ: Friday night session will be strictly Karra, Alana and Kiri deal.

Tia: uh-huh. Got the technicians frowning again by the way.

Russ: oh, why? Oh, sorry.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, anyway........

Tia: to stop yourself from doing that, you could put your feet up there. Wrap them up in something.

Russ: it's all right, I'm trying.

Tia: I just thought of something funny.

Russ: what?

Tia: when he gets his back thingy that wraps around him, get him to wear it and I'll go, "Luke, I am your father". "I feel your anger".

Russ: that would be a good one.

Tia: "do not underestimate the power of the force". "Your battle station is insignificant compared to the power of the force".

Russ: classic. Okay, is there another exercise that you could toss on top of this or do you just want to stay the one.

Tia: stay the one.

Russ: it might be little tough to track this one down.

Tia: it's not too tough.

Russ: you know my focusing ability on small objects is pretty, pretty.....

Tia: you think this is small?

Russ: yup.

Tia: what do you want, an elephant?

Russ: well I was thinking on more of a planetary scale but I guess this will work.

Tia: well I can't think of anywhere within your range that would give you a little bit of a challenge.

Russ: no, this will do it. Okay, we'll work on this challenge.

Tia: oh, no.

Russ: okay, save it for the next time.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: the next time.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, good. And I shall endeavor to succeed in this is that all possible chances.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay...........oh, how are your kids?

Tia: oh, excellent, excellent.

Russ: I hear you've got a walker among the toddlers.

Tia: a walker amongst the toddler. I have one crawler, one toddler, and one walker. It's like everything she does. Can you believe it? She's so smart.

Russ: she's my favorite.

Tia: she's the youngest too.

Russ: before bird?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: she's always my favorite.

Tia: yeah, little Diana.

Russ: I always said she......

Tia: the quiet one.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: that sits and thinks a lot.

Russ: you said, "no, it's Athena".

Tia: well, Athena is just as smart and just as intelligent.

Russ: but she doesn't have the drive that Diana's got.

Tia: no, she doesn't. But it's useful not to have that aggressive drive like Diana has for an astral traveler.

Russ: oh.

Tia: you see, each one has a temperament that fits their ability.

Russ: hmmm, I see.

Tia: uh-huh. Athena is nice and relaxed, Minerva is playful and experimented and Diana is thoughtful and forceful.

Russ: ahhh, that's good.

Tia: uh-huh and she's the one that seems to be most interested in hunting.

Russ: just like her mother?

Tia: uh-huh, to a certain extent, yeah.

Russ: cool. So, are you like leaving them in the crèche still?

Tia: well, when it's okay with Korton and when he's not around I bring them over to where I'm working.

Russ: oh.

Tia: and Luna likes them.

Russ: oh, course.

Tia: uh-huh. Because she's the mother of Athena anyway.

Russ: right.

Tia: uh-huh and she comes over and still helps to feed them when she's not preoccupied. And when she is preoccupied, she always calls and we puncture up on the screen and bring over the kittens as she talks to them and she can just about pick them up on her telepathy but she's got to be able to see them to do that.

Russ: oh.

Tia: but they can talk to her without worrying about it.

Russ: oh, on a telepathic mode?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right.

Tia: yeah, so she's a better receiver than she is a transmitter.

Russ: oh, I see.

Tia: uh-huh. But she can light little flames of light now.

Russ: how?

Tia: manifesting.

Russ: it's beautiful.

Tia: uh-huh. And according to Kornas, that's about as far as going to progress.

Russ: still, we were talking about .000 back when we were discussing Minerva.

Tia: uh-huh. Well, it's partly because of Athena.

Russ: right.

Tia: when she was carrying her, there was a certain amount of exchange and she's trying like crazy to get pregnant.

Russ: how's her boyfriend and her doing with that?

Tia: they're in bed a lot. Okay.....

Russ: okay love.

Tia: uh-huh. I'm ring mistress.

Russ: oh, you're ring mistress now.

Tia: yes.

Russ: traded off.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. All right, well we're set. I've got a goal.

Tia: okay.





(Alana comes on but just for a bit)


Alana: hey Russ.

Russ: Luna?

Alana: no.

Russ: Alana?

Alana: yes.

Russ: hi Alana.

Alana: hey.

Russ: hey. It's been so long, I wasn't sure.......

Alana: well, this is my last time channeling. I just wanted to make sure everything was sticky boo.

Russ: right.

Alana: can't stay too long because.......well.....

(Alana sighs)

Russ: anyway, it was good talking to you the other day on the video there and we're set for........oh, when do we want to do the practice run? Oh yeah, you're not going to be there anyway.

Alana: no.

Russ: oh. Anyway, I'm excited and thrilled, I'm looking forward to it.

Alana: yeah.

Russ: and how about you my dear, any cravings?

Alana: no. Okay, I need to go.

Russ: okay love.





(Tia is back to get us to the end)


Tia: she just walked in.

Russ: boy, I didn't think I'd hear her channeling so close to pregnancy.....or delivery. Great.

Tia: yeah. It's her last time.

Russ, well...

Tia: uh-huh. Omal was about come in, saw Alana, just stood back up and sat back down.

Russ: well cool.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: well that was quite a treat.

Tia: well......

Russ: all right, okay......


            
SIDE ONE ENDS




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SIDE TWO


(Omal starts off as speaker for side two)


Omal: five, four, three, two, one, now wasn't that timely?

Russ: that was..........that's almost professional.

Omal: that is the sign of a good ring mistress.

Russ: yes, that was excellent.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ fresh side for you right here.

Omal: I made her blush. She is a good ring mistress.

Russ: absolutely, what would we do without her?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, let us proceed.

Russ: all right. Well, a couple statements to work on here.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, you've already been listening in on what we've been going through so far.

Omal: yes.

Russ: about getting Sirius. A couple of reasons here I've got set up is that one is that there is such a history between us and yet there is kind of a gap big enough you could drive a starship through and I'd like to see that closed intellectually.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and kind of seeing that with this lesson idea.

Omal: to close the gap intellectually.........hmmm. Do you wish to continue this discussion about closing the gap at a later time when you are more available?

Russ: hmmmm.

Omal: or do you wish to proceed with the expanding of your knowledge? But when it is time to close the gap, to do it in person one on one, maybe?

Russ: ahhh, that might be better, yes. It's a pretty big gap.

Omal: yes, that is what I'm saying.

Russ: right.

Omal: what I'm actually saying is let us wait to close that gap until you get to Hades Base.

Russ: right. But for now we'll just work on......

Omal: expanding your intellect.

Russ: good idea. Okay, now.................oh, anyway, so what I wanted to work with you on is a couple things.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: for myself of course, I'd like to start on maybe some beginning manifestation stuff.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and with Mark, if you had anything that he could benefit from, great, otherwise he might not need it.

Omal: well, he is still working on his Bat Planet project.

Russ: oh, okay.

Omal: so that does take a bit of his time but he has learned that he can do that from our dimension, the fifth to the third, but it is part of the problem of his accelerated falling to pieces.

Russ: oh, I see. So, how to avoid one but still gain the benefits of it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: well, we'll stick with I guess manifestation for now and I know you......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: have knowledge of far more things than just manifestation and astral projection.

Omal: oh yes.

Russ: so if you'd like some time, I mean I'd like to leave a topic of goals or a lesson for the week ahead it's up to you.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: surprise me if you want. There might be something there that I.......

Omal: okay, I will come up with something that will entertain.

Russ: great, that would work. But basically I just want something I can work on....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and set my sights on.

Omal: okay, candles.

Russ: candles? Okay.

Omal: uh-huh. We will go back to making the flame move in a continuous stream in one direction.

Russ: okay.

Omal: and what we will do is we will aim to get you up to ten seconds of bending the flame.

Russ: okay.

Omal: so it is continually bent over like this for ten seconds.

Russ: ohhh, okay. That's a good start.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: all right. Good, I like that. So I can work on that between now and next Tuesday.

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay. And yeah, this is a big weekend coming up here. Right, because we've got all kinds of fun stuff going.

Omal: yes, word of advice.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: don't drink too much and imbibe vitamin C.

Russ: vitamin C.

Omal: uh-huh and calcium.

Russ: milk.

Omal: yes.

Russ: thank you.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: a good word of advice indeed. Because I have really seen big differences in me mostly since ever we started.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, even people who have known me for years since I've been up here have seen changes instead of just............like our Arcturian friend.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I guess he can see auras or at least the energy field.........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and he just said how clear I've been looking now that............because he hadn't seen me since I stopped.

Omal: yes, any hasn't looked at his own.

Russ: one note, he hasn't looked at his own.......oh, that's right, they have a baby due coming up in two months.

Omal: oh, congratulations.

Russ: that's right. He's been getting a lot of good input from his new wife too.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: as far as getting his life together.

Omal: yes, they are headed more to the religious side.

Russ: right. That isn't a bad idea.

Omal: no. Is he still being as conceited?

Russ: yeah, yeah, the conceit hasn't gone.

Omal: after his trip to India, he came back and he was a changed person.

Russ: for a little while.

Omal: for a little while. And what did Mark say?

Russ: that it would last for a little while.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I remember that. And he was right, I mean he did gain some knowledge at the time that I'm sure is going to serve him quite well in his later years......

Omal: yes.

Russ: as soon as he gets settled down and gets more seriously into his studies. Go back over all that stuff he learned. Probably come out of it a great person.

Omal: hopefully but he has a new distraction. He is responsible for a new life........

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: he is responsible for a set period of time to supply housing, food and the necessary materials for his wife and offspring.

Russ: absolutely.

Omal: so unfortunately, he will have to work harder which means less time to study.

Russ: right. Yeah, but that's a good side too also....

Omal: yeah, because it makes him more responsible.

Russ: right, so I'm not going to have to worry about that. But apparently, one thing is his influences from other entities as I guess really gone to a lesser extent.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: since he's not dealing with things like extraterrestrials.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so I assume that he's been....

Omal: he is shutting them out with a little help.

Russ: ahhh. Any clarity on that last part?

Omal: no

Russ: okay, just checking. All right, now then at some point here, I'd like to go ahead and work with Korton........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: with maybe a lesson on communication.

Omal: okay, we will set that up for after your bonding ceremony. Your bonding ceremony, there will be a short channeling session before, only one side.

Russ: okay, excellent. And we'll set it up from there.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: good. That'll be this week?

Omal: no, it will be the week after.

Russ: oh, week after.

Omal: because it could be an extremely long time.

Russ: oh, I see. Because it would be a long lesson.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay. Excellent, excellent. And I'm glad to see that you'll be officiating.

Omal: thank you.

Russ: I enjoyed our talk the other night.

Omal: yes. It was father talk time.

(Russ bursts out laughing)

Russ: indeed, and hey, I can always use the extra work.

Omal: thank you.

Russ: so anyway, we're set on the 14th.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. Did I fall asleep on you?

Omal: briefly.

Russ: briefly, okay. I mean for a second I was there, I wasn't there, I was there.......I wasn't sure what happened there for second except for the fact that.......

Omal: it gave me a chance to make a call that I needed to make.

Russ: oh, good.

Omal: so it served its function.

Russ: okay, my pleasure Omal.

Omal: you're welcome.

Russ: okay, well that's all I have.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: since I just wanted to get in this little thing. Anything that's open for discussion time?

Omal: yes, we have a vacancy for another pilot.

Russ: oh you do?

Omal: yes.

Russ: great.

Omal: no, not great.

Russ: oh, that's then some bad news coming.

Omal: yes, bad news. However, the first opportunity that we've had to try Kiri's new equipment.

Russ: yes, but you were hoping not to have to try........

Omal: yes, and it has been sent to where Ashtar is stationed at the moment with genetic material.

Russ: oh.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and was it a successful experiment as far as......

Omal: we will be finding out shortly.

Russ: oh, I see.

Omal: yes. It was a different circumstance from the previous one.

Russ: was it pilot error this time?

Omal: no, it was just sheer weight of numbers.

Russ: ooohhh.

Omal: yes, two craft on patrol out near Jupiter running interference I believe is what happened. And they spotted three craft up high. They went to engage to drive them off and about eight came from Jupiter.

Russ: geez.

Omal: yes. And then two more came from Eur......no, Io.

Russ: 10, 13?

Omal: yes. They radioed for support. I believe between the two of them they took out six craft before losing the one and the surviving one fought like crazy.

(Russ whistles)

Omal: and was very fortunate.

Russ: oh, good. Well that's good.

Omal: and he will look forward to your visit.

Russ: okay, I look forward to visiting him.

Omal: yes. Oh, Taal is very tired and very shook up at the moment.

Russ: oh. Is he in the med lab?

Omal: no, he is not harmed or anything.

Russ: oh, really?

Omal: he's just on extended R&R for the time being and seeing a healer for a nervous disposition.

Russ: well, I'll be glad to stop by.....

Omal: he has three new confirmed kills to his credit.

Russ: yeah, boy, losing a wingman like that.

Omal: yes.

Russ: was it a trainee?

Omal: no.

Russ: oh, that.

Omal: it would've been better if it had been a trainee.

Russ: oh.

Omal: losing an experienced pilot is unfortunate, it happens.

Russ: I hope this isn't any kind of increase in.........

Omal: we do not know yet. But patrols are now flying in groups of four with a patrol permanently on standby ready to go to wherever necessary within your solar system.

Russ: that's good. What do you think of my.........or what do you think I should do as far as any help with Nazreal and Marta as far as maybe a little backup training that I've been missing out on?

Omal: it may be necessary. The most important thing at the moment is unfortunately having to spend time with Taal.

Russ: yes, I would definitely.......

Omal: have you invited him to your bonding ceremony?

Russ: I'm kind of not even really sure....

Omal: invite him.

Russ: all right, glad to.

Omal: I have some flowers in my office if you wish to come over and collect them.

Russ: I'll be glad to.

Omal: and possibly I believe he has interest in Glenlivet.

Russ: when you be around your office this evening?

Omal: yes.

Russ: be glad to stop by two see you.

Omal: I have to fill out reports.

Russ: bottle of Glenlivet,excellent scotch, never tried it. Good, and I will definitely extend that invitation ASAP.

Omal: yes, don't discuss with him at present the dogfight.

Russ: okay.

Omal: stay away from it. If he brings it up, listen to what he has to say but do not get too involved.

Russ: practice my communication skills.

Omal: yes. Okay.......

Russ: okay. Thank you OmaL, I'll see you later.





(Tia is back to talk again before handing off)



Russ: hi Kiri.....Tia.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

Tia: yeah I know, he has to rain on your parade.

Russ: that's all right, that's all right......

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: hey, it's.........are you reading my mind again?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: God.

Tia: yeah, I know, two in such a short time.

Russ: yeah, but how are you able to.......

Tia: because Karra's on meds.

Russ: oh, no wonder..........

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: she's remembering that faster than I can.

Tia: yeah, she's relaying it to me. But it happens. I mean, they probably saved some innocent people in your family.

Russ: yeah, sure.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but yeah, just the loss of anyone.

Tia: yeah. That's why I don't get involved with pilots, they live such a short existence. Why do you think they party so hard?

Russ: yeah, I guess so. I mean...........okay, go ahead and toss it around.

Tia: I'm going to give you a little lesson, is what happens happens, there is nothing you can do about it, so why be upset?

Russ: well........

Tia: why put yourself through hell because somebody laid down their life to protect their friends and people that they don't know?

Russ: because you have all people understand their effort.

Tia: uh-huh. Here endth the lesson. I wanted to use that since I been watching the movie with Mark the other night.

Russ: which movie?

Tia: the man says, "here endth the lesson?" What's another one? Oh, "trust a what to bring a knife to a gunfight". Didn't understand that.

Russ: in The Longest Day?

Tia: and another one where this guy says to this other man......

Russ: oh yeah.

Tia: he screamed like a stuck pig and then he pushes him off the building and the guy's falling and screaming and he goes, "did he sound like that?"

Russ: what movie are we talking about, The Longest Day?

Tia: no.

Russ: which one?

Tia: Chicago.

Russ: Chicago........

Tia: okay, oh, this........I know.......

Russ: oh, the Untouchables.

Tia: is that what it's called? Babe Ruth, DiMaggio?

Russ: no, it's not the Untouchables. Well, we'll wait to tomorrow and ask Mark.

Tia: okay.

Russ: okay, catch you later.

(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)






(Karra is on to cheer things up)


Karra: can't think of a joke, I was going to try to make you laugh.

Russ: that's all right love.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: you know my mind better than I do sometimes. All right.....

Karra: okay, I've got to think of a joke to get you lively.

Russ: don't worry love, I'm lively enough. I'm thinking. You know I'm thinking. You know........

Karra: yes, I know what you're thinking.

Russ: okay love. Okay, we'll set up the practice room tomorrow.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: tonight I've got an invitation to address.

Karra: yes, you got to deliver that message.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: glad to. And how are you doing darling? Not a true or false question.

Karra: what? I thought it might be a trick question.

Russ: no, just how you doing sweetheart?

Karra: it's working, good.

Russ: yes, absolutely.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, you always cheer me up.

Karra: okay, how am I doing? Well, I'm doing fine. Got down from the swimming pool.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: hold on a sec. That's better. Yes?

Russ: so in other words, you're doing fine?

Karra: uh-huh, I'm doing very fine. I'm watching Tia use her PK to keep the bottles in place while she's playing with the one that she brought with her. Which I think is Diana or it could be Minerva. No, it's definitely Minerva.

Russ: turned into a cat?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's definitely her.

Karra: yeah. It's floating around the little ones heads at the moment.

Russ: okay, amazing.

Karra: uh-huh. It's making them giggle. Now it's spinning the other way in place. Sorry.

Russ: it's a spectator sport.

Karra: yes it is.

Russ: obviously.

Karra: it's quite funny.

Russ: yeah, I believe it. Anyway, thank you for your assistance this afternoon or this evening about my ideas coming up here about practice.

Karra: that's what I'm here for.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: uh-huh. We seem to be going a little bit slowly with the programming of Mark and we've got to do something about.

Russ: what?

Karra: his lack of energy.

Russ: isn't that just a lack of sleep?

Karra: partly, partly.

Russ: Tia said it was a lack of protein and sleep combined.

Karra: and lack of vigorous exercise.

Russ: yes, vigorous exercise, that's right.

Karra: uh-huh. We've got to find out some way of getting him more active.

Russ: take him to a Dead Show.

Karra: he wouldn't enjoy that really. His idea of music is.....

Russ: he'd be active and vigorous but I'm afraid he wouldn't enjoy it very much.

Karra: he'd be running in the opposite direction.

Russ: yeah, pretty much. All the way back to Tahoe from Sacramento.

Karra: yes.

Russ: no, that won't quite do it.

Karra: okay.

Russ: well, he's going to be going to the Renaissance fair, that's a lot of walking around a bit.

Karra: uh-huh. Oh, that'd be good for him.

Russ: yeah.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and get him some sword fighting or something, I don't know.

Karra: do they have lessons for that?

Russ: I believe so. More fencing than sword fighting. That was the one I went to, I don't know what they're going to have will have up here.

Karra: he might enjoy that, work out some of his aggressions. Then he might teach a class or two.

Russ: that's true. Oh, thank you for your help with my costume.

Karra: oh, that's all right. I enjoyed it, I just wish that I could go.

Russ: well you will be there actually. Not quite in corporal form but you'll be there through me.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: we've got.........all right, Dead on Friday.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, so you'll be there.

Karra: of course.

Russ: and I look forward to that.

Karra: uh-huh. I'm thinking what I'm going to do......

Russ: what?

Karra: I'm going to dress up.

Russ: you're going to dress up?

Karra: up here.

Russ: oh, in a Renaissance costume?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's an idea, I like it. Oh, so we're all set on my outfit for the bonding ceremony then.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I like the aqua vest idea, it will look very nice.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and.....

Karra: giving instructions for Mark's uniform to be pressed. Is he going to be your best man or........?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: okay.

Russ: because well what I also want to set up with him so he can take me up there that night.

Karra: okay.

Russ: and.....

Karra: that's gonna be a little bit of a workout for him.

Russ: well not really, we've done it before.

Karra: yeah, but he's going to have to come up here, go off and do his stuff whilst we channel through him, come back and then he'll probably have enough time, half an hour or so?

Russ: yeah.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but there won't be a time jump there.

Karra: no.

Russ: straight time for just a little over 45 minutes.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: okay. One thing though is we're going to go ahead and.........oh, do I need to go out to Sirius? I probably should.................what?

Karra: sorry, you've got to see it to believe it.

Russ: well, maybe you can describe it and I can at least get a visual picture.

Karra: well, there's about six mice circling around this feline that's been squirted by milk from bottles.

Russ: oh God.

Karra: and the mice are real. Somebody has brought them in.

(Russ laughs)

Karra: and there's......

Russ: sounds like a circus at a channeling session.

Karra: and there's this full grown cat which happens to be Minerva trying to chase these mice whilst being squirted with milk.

Russ: and floating.

Karra: uh-huh. And Tia is in absolute hysterics and Kiri............no, Kiri's just got up and left but she was pretty red from laughing too.

Russ: that's too funny.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: I think the person that's doing the levitating is Omal.

Russ: oh, okay. That's pretty bad but that's a big chore for him, even Tia.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now, your father......

Karra: yes.

Russ: yes. So, I should go out to Sirius and go say hi and make sure he's coming.

Karra: yeah. I don't know if he can or not come. I was talking to him......was it? Just after you left up here I think. He's pretty busy. There's some big Council ceremony or something.

Russ: okay, well I want to go and visit him anyway.

Karra: I think it's something like threatening the parliament or the equivalent.

Russ: oh, okay. But you were going to give the bride away I take it then?

Karra: well, I don't tend to give things away, you know. However, for thirty of your dollars I'll sell her to you.

Russ: will that be in used condition I take it?

Karra: that's used.

Russ: slightly used.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's about it.

Karra: well I try so hard to be just like anybody else but it doesn't seem to work with Lyka.

Russ: no, but I doubt it ever will either.

Karra: she has just so much awe for me. I mean, look at all I've done is nothing.

Russ: well, I know. But I mean I can certainly sympathize if I met one of my heroes I guess?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I be like whoa.

Karra: yeah. Which reminds me, talking of my arm, it's given me a little bit of trouble.

Russ: okay, I'll do some work on it.

Karra: uh-huh, it's the same area.

Russ: okay, all right. Excellent my dear, I'm looking forward to everything.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: it's going to be a great weekend.

Karra: we've got a busy week ahead of us.

Russ: you betcha, a lot of work.

Karra: looking forward to.........I do hope they play that women are better than men.

Russ: women are smarter than men.

Karra: smarter, thank you. Well better too.

Russ: you do like that song I noticed, yes.

Karra: uh-huh. But please, if I go off the air you know why.

Russ: I know. Well that's fine, I'll understand.

Karra: you're very understanding, you're very sweet. You're cute too but I'm not going to tell you that.

Russ: I appreciate that but yeah, you do bring out the best in me I have to admit.

Karra: uh-huh, okay, questions?

Russ: okay. Yeah love, in the first place, if there is a tension Erica's shoulder, would that be just a massage or some..........?

Karra: uh-huh, that would be the first step.

Beth: and we've got a full elixir session coming up.

Karra: oh good.

Russ: oh, how is Michael and David's education?

Karra: it's fine.

Russ: have they gotten their aim down?

Karra: there's this target is fully materialized out of thin air with a tail that's about yeah wide at the moment. I should say it's somewhere between a full-grown tiger, that's one of the stripes......

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and a cub.

Russ: is that Minerva also?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: she doing that?

Karra: yes, she is it.

Russ: wow.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that's quite a feat.

Karra: and there's a very confused.........it's got these enormous whiskers. Its head's about yeah big and it's whiskers are yeah big and they're drooping.

Russ: cool.

Karra: and its tail all fluffed up and it's totally confused. I think she's on a trend at the moment.

Russ: yeah, I'd say so.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I bet that's a lot of fun.

Karra: yes, it's a party up here at the moment they're just screaming like crazy with excitement. Actually, I think there's probably enough excitement for them.

Russ: true. Oh, by the way......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: tomorrow or the next day in the morning, I'll be getting up early to go down and work on the Renaissance fair itself.

Karra: yes, of course.

Russ: and so you might want to be hanging around once in a while to see how that's going on.

Karra: I will be there with you. You know that I'm linked to you.

Russ: oh, I know.

Karra: okay.

Russ: all right love, that's all I've got.

Karra: yeah, I've got to go and settle these two thugs down here. I've got to settle them down.

Russ: okay.

Karra: the little Rugrats.

Russ: the little Rugrats. How do they get along with Klarra?

Karra: well, Klarra thinks they're absolutely adorable.

Russ: she likes her brothers?

Karra: yeah, she likes dressing them and undressing them.

Russ: oh cool.

Karra: yeah, putting different clothes on them.

Russ: oh, okay. Okay, mother dear. Mother of everybody up there.

Karra: I'll see you later.

Russ: bye love.




(Tia wraps up a side for a second time)


Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: sounds like another rock concert out there.

Russ: kinda true though when you think about Karra, she's kind of like mother of us all kind of thing.

Tia: no.

Russ: well, I don't know. She always kind of keep us in line.

Tia: yes. She can be quite dominating but yet, very relaxed.

Russ: that's what I mean, she's perfect at it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so, let's work on some stuff here since we've got five minutes to kill. By the way, how is he work doing?

Tia: it's going slowly, it's hard.

Russ: well, your communication skills are getting better though.

Tia: uh-huh. Well it helps yeah, working with Korton. Some of the stuff that he wants is almost impossible.

Russ: like what?

Tia: well, he wants a complete historical record of a town.

Russ: of a town?

Tia: yes.

Russ: pick Lake Tahoe.

Tia: no, it is a particular town. He wants a complete historical record from the first people there to its present time.

Russ: good God, that is tough. Is it here on earth?

Tia: uh-huh, can't tell you where.

Russ: oh no, of course not. But still.........

Tia: uh-huh. So Luna and myself are scrabbling like crazy.....

Russ: actually, it's not that tough.

Tia: yeah, the first person coming and saying we're going to build a town here to a person.

Russ: yeah, that's not that tough.

Tia: why?

Russ: because most of those same people have got records and diaries.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: that they've kept. So all you've got to do is just go through the diaries and be able to just..............yeah, because they're all published. And go through the published diaries of the founder of the town and then add on to it as the town records grow.

Tia: yeah, but you're talking about a town that has been in place for nearly 3000 years.

Russ: well.....

Tia: before writing.

Russ: you wouldn't have diaries then 3000 years ago that would've lasted that long.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all you have is conjecture then.

Tia: yeah, it's only the last 500 years or so. No, I should say 11 to 1200 years but you see the problem?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: yeah, I can tell you which town it is, Glastonbury.

Russ: Glastonbury.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, that's easy then.

Tia: no it's not.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: there is so much legend that you got to sift through all the legends.

Russ: but see, that's the thing. The legends are your key.

Tia: yes, but you take a legend right? And let's say it's got about a thousand lines, right? Ten of those may actually be true......

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: but which ten?

West: well, for the first place, okay, you know that the Druids were the first people to set up town on Glastonbury.

Tia: they weren't.

Russ: the Celts.

Tia: hmmm. But you see the thing, you just said something that you thought was true and it turns out it's not.

Russ: well.....

Tia: but that's what I'm saying is, that there's so much information....

Russ: wait a minute, I got it, I've got it, the historical record about Glastonbury.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: there's a church on Glastonbury, right?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: a Cathedral?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, Mark hasn't read the book yet. It's called Druids, up there. And it shows the very first.........it's a historical record of the very first town, the hillfort that was on Glastonbury.....

Tia: there was no hillfort on Glastonbury.

Russ: oh, there wasn't?

Tia: no, it was a swap then.

Russ: Glastonbury Tor is a mountain.

Tia: no, it's in the middle of a swap.

Russ: it's a hill in the middle of a swamp though.

Tia: uh-huh. Do you know what the original name for the area was?

Russ: what?

Tia: come on, you should know. You know all about those legends and things.

Russ: the original name for the Glastonbury area?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it was Avalon.

Tia: correct.

Russ: right. If you took that legend, that would be the original settlers from Atlantis. Oh yeah, that's one of the legends right there is that the settlers from Atlantis, one of the colonists from there....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: settled in Glastonbury........what book is that? Oh.

Tia: you see but that isn't where the town is. See, it's the town that we're after.

Russ: yeah, I see what you mean.

Tia: uh-huh. So you've got all this rich information, right? Some of it legend, some of it conjecture, some of it personal opinions, some of it cross-referenced with something else that doesn't connect. Then you've got myths, stories, you've got all this rich information.

Russ: okay, I'll tell you what, before next Tuesday if I find myself with a couple extra minutes, I will give you the exact history of Glastonbury.

Tia: Russ, we've got much more detailed access to information then you could possibly dream of.

Russ: what if I get a past life regression that's right there at the beginning of Glastonbury?

Tia: that's one person's opinion.

Russ: well I'm talking an eyewitness account.

Tia: yeah, but we've got that information.

Russ: you've got eyewitness accounts of the first people in Glastonbury?

Tia: uh-huh. We've got copies and tons of stuff in the computers here. You've got to remember, we've got a computer that has.....

 

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