SIDE
ONE
(Omal starts out the session for
a change of pace)
Russ: I thought I checked it.
Omal: so this debate has not been recorded?
Russ: no.
Omal: do you wish to go over it?
Russ: nah. We'll be going over it many times over
the future....
Omal: oh yeah, we will and we have done so.
Russ: and we'll do it some more so....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I'm not worried about that.
Omal: okay.
Russ: but Tia is going to shoot me.
Omal: why?
Russ: she gave me all this great stuff for Mark and
it's all gone.
Omal: she is at the moment has her hands in.....
Russ: her head in her hands and she's shaking going,
ooohhhhh!!!!!!!!
Omal: oh dear.
Russ: this is only the eighth or ninth time that's
happened. She should be used to it by now.
Omal: uh-huh, well I am. Okay, do you have more
questions for me?
Russ: yeah, as a matter fact. This morning I was up
on Sirius talking with Tanaka.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and we were discussing third and fifth
dimensional assistance......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: that Nazreal and I are going through right
now.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and he explained the fact of why him and I are
essential to being together at this time.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: due to the fact that.....well, one example is
if Nazreal were to crash on earth.
Omal: uh-huh. Because of his naivety he would be in
a lot of trouble.
Russ: mass trouble. He has no concept of what this
world's like down here with third dimensional
idiosyncrasies.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and so Tanaka had me manifest a buck fifty to
pay for the teeth.........
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: as an example of monetary exchanges. I guess
that's a point where Nazreal has some problems on.
Omal: probably. I've never talked to him about his
concept of financial and fiscal policies.
Russ: well, he studied it but he had no real concept
of things like taxes.
Omal: perhaps you may have to help and coach him.
Russ: well that's what I found out this morning.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: Tanaka was kind enough to show me a point
where I could assist Nazreal in a different way.
Omal: uh-huh. Taal is so up-to-date on what is
happening and how things function.
Russ: oh, yeah.
Omal: you could probably run a very good.....what's
the word? Hmmm, scam?
(Russ laughs)
Russ: besides knowing everything, he knows from your
dimension, he knows everything going on down here.
Omal: to a certain extent. He is a little bit naïve
in.......what's the word? Social skills.
Russ: oh.
Omal: such as being such a nice individual, how
would he turn down somebody that came up and made an
offer he couldn't refuse but needed to refuse?
Russ: I think he's smart enough and mature enough,
he would weigh the priorities one way or
another........
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and make a really intelligent decision like I
would.
Omal: yes.
Russ: I mean we all face that same problem every
day.
Omal: but it could be something very trivial. Yeah,
for example, he could be walking down the street and
sees a little girl fall over and hurt herself and
his desire to help her, to put a Band-Aid or
something on her cut knee....
Russ: he could be accused of child molestation or
something......
Omal: correct.
Russ: throw him in jail.
Omal: correct, and then we would have to get him out
somehow.
Russ: I hadn't thought of that.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay, let us continue.
Russ: okay, now, how can I help Nazreal work more on
third dimensional stuff?
Omal: just talk to him. Answer his questions no
matter how silly they may seem, answer them.
Russ: he doesn't really ask me anything. I'm
wondering if I could bring up some stuff that might
be of assistance to him.
Omal: you can try.
Russ: stuff that could be essential for what could
save his life someday.
Omal: you can try.
Russ: I can't conceive of something that
would...........in a situation he might get himself
into. Just go over it as if I was in his position
kind of thing?
Omal: yeah, try to think of everything.
Russ: I see. Well, Tanaka mentioned the fact that he
can help me learn more about fifth dimension......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: being able to exist on fifth dimension....
Omal: yes.
Russ: which means I certainly need a lot of work on.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: because my social skills on fifth dimension
are sadly lacking.
Omal: yes, true. The courtesy of going solid here in
places.
Russ: right, right, good example.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: and other things....
Omal: yes.
Russ: that I could find myself hopelessly lost.
Omal: or hung up by your feet by a very irate
Wookie.
Russ: right, right, good point. I mean, yeah.......
Omal: for example, you don't kiss a Wookie, even in
greeting. You do not kiss a Wookie.
Russ: why not?
Omal: because it is touching their face which is a
very personal thing for them.
Russ: it is?
Omal: the only persons that is allowed to touch
another Wokie's face is the Wookie's mate and then
only in private.
Russ: good point, good point.
Omal: you don't even touch a Wookie with your hands
on the face. You don't put your hands up and go,
"how you doing?" Rubbing his ears because he's
liable to rip your arms off. Wookies have been known
to do that you know.....
(Russ breaks out in laughter)
Omal: especially if they lose.
Russ: Omal, you're wonderful.
Omal: yes, but I'm also spreading humor.
Russ: yes, I know, I know.
Omal: okay, next question please.
Russ: now then, out of twenty thousand years....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: a person down here might live maybe a hundred
lives.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: that's about a hundred years with about
nineteen hundred years between lives theoretically.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, but it just doesn't seem like there's
enough time to get each one right. Like say you're
just getting done and then you die. You're just
starting to catch on and then you've got a start
back at the start again....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: needing to catch up.
Omal: you have a movie that might be useful for you
to watch.
Russ: like what?
Omar, it's called February the second? No. Ground
pig day?
Russ: oh, Groundhog Day.
Omal: that might be useful for you to watch to
understand reincarnation to a little extent. Taking
it a couple stages further.
Russ: oh, I see, I see. Well I was wondering, my
question was, who do I complained to? Is there like
a complete apartment I can say, "excuse me,...."
Omal: yes, but they only take it in writing, signed
in triplicate, sent in, sent back, lost, found,
buried in soft dirt for six months, sent in again,
general inquiry and then sent back, verified and
then finally signed. Normally takes about twenty
thousand years.
Russ: well, that's about the time I'll need for
this. Okay, well that was my question. Anyway, thank
you for the tip on Groundhog Day....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I'kk make a permanent copy of that one.
Omal: okay.
Russ: because I know that's always gotten me
intelligently confused before. So, thank you Omal.
Oh, no, there's a question that goes along with
that, I'm sorry. I noticed like short lives.......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: is that like a test of retention of what you
get out of each one or is that just sheer boredom
from having too long a life?
Omal: yeah, it is partly a test, partly to go over a
little part.
Russ: well I was like thinking about Karra with her
thousand years......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I don't even want to conceive living a
thousand years on this goofy planet.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I mean, we have enough trouble living 80s or
90s years we're stuck here.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: a thousand years, I'd want to give it up about
that point anyway. Your body is getting decrepit and
everything.
Omal: well, it is an aging thing as well.
Russ: well, even if I didn't age, let's say I lived
immortality....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: you'd have to be bored at sometimes.
Omal: hmm, knowledge is a very powerful and
addictive drug. A bit like competing so I've been
told.
(Russ laughs)
Omal: and this is for the channeler........
Russ: oh.
Omal: a dig in the ribs.
Russ: oh, a dig in the ribs. Yes, he'll get a big
kick out of that.
Omal: yes. But now, the search for knowledge does
have some comparisons with the necessary urge to
compete that some people have. It is a very strong
drug because the more you learn, the more you want
to learn. Take a look at yourself for example.
Russ: well yeah, it's massive growth.
Omal: uh-huh, and competing is the same thing. The
more you compete the more you want to compete, the
harder it is to stop.
Russ: but I've never caught that drug.
Omal: well some people don't.
Russ: it's like knowledge for me is the only drug.
Competing just doesn't do it for me like knowledge
does.
Omal: well...
Russ: maybe that's a sign of advancement.
Omal: it could be, it might not be, it depends.
Russ: it might not be, yeah, right.
Omal: okay, next question.
Russ: that's it.
Omal: oh, okay.
Russ: I've run straight out. Besides, I've lost half
the tape anyway.
Omal: okay. Well, look forward to seeing you up
here. Have an enjoyable evening.
Russ: thank you Omal, I'll double check those tapes
from now on.
Omal: I'll be back. Boom, boom.
Russ: consider this a divorce.
Omal: boom, consider this a divorce. Omal to
Enterprise, two to beam up. You ready?
Russ: I'll say, let's go. Pull me out of here
Scotty.
Omal: aye, I'd like to but that the dilithium
crystals, they're not working at the moment. And I
tell you, you no can beam somebody up from third to
fifth dimension, it don't no work. Omal out.
Russ: bye Omal.
(Tia comes on as
the ring mistress for the evening)
Russ: you can roast me over a slow fire if you want.
I've got a barbecue now.
Tia: WWWHHHAAAATTTT.........
Russ: just go over what you gave me before.
Tia: it's spur of the moment.
Russ: but no, it's sitting right there in your
files. You've got it all set up, you've got it all
written down, I'm sure you did......
Tia: I didn't write it down, I can't remember it.
Russ: well you've got tapes of it already have this
whole conversation, right?
Tia: yes I do but I'd have to sift through and
rewind it and find it...
Russ: it's just a short section.
Tia: okay, let's see what I can come up with. We
weren't too concerned about the first one, the
second one I thought was about.....
Russ: that was.....
Tia: astral travel.
Russ: yes.
Tia: hmmmm. One of the interesting advantages of
astral travel is being able to travel wherever you
wish within certain limitations imposed by the
individual. One of these limitations is energy. This
is however not imposed by the individual. The energy
level necessary to travel great distances is one of
the key factors in astral travel. The more energy
you have and can focus to a fine, narrow beam
depends on how far you can travel. There are other
issues concerning out of body travel. One of those
is the moral issues. There should be a code of
conduct for people that travel out of their bodies
on a regular basis. After all, it is not polite to
visit somebody in their private space without the
consent. Okay?
Russ: got it. Tia at the interplanetary conference?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: sixth.......
Tia: correct.
Russ: interplanetary conference.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: got it.
(Tia hisses)
Tia: your fault, you didn't check.
Russ: no I didn't. So many things are happening, I
forget sometimes.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I check every single time except tonight.
Tia: perhaps you are to have a checklist, huh?
Russ: that's a good idea.
Tia: uh-huh, of course.
Russ: except there is only one thing to check off so
it's not that tough.
Tia: oh well, I suppose I better let the last person
on. I suppose you've got the tapefor on for her but
not me.
(We exchange raspberries)
Russ: see you in a while.
(Alana comes on but
is very shy)
Russ: how are you doing?
Alana: okay.
Russ: good to hear, good to hear. Your studies are
going well?
Alana: yes.
Russ: all right. Well, how we doing? You and I in
other words as far as progress?
Alana: doing just fine.
Russ: okay. All right, now corporeality, getting
that necessary solidity. Okay, now, it should be a
buildup, right?
Alana: uh-huh.
Russ: right. Because when it happens with Karra, it
was kind of almost an accident.
Alana: uh-huh.
Russ: it was like all of a sudden things just
clicked for a moment but what I want to do is keep
working on this practicing so that it keeps getting
good, good, good.
Alana: practice will get you perfection.
Russ: right, want to be able to do this every time,
be able to (poof?).
Alana: (says something to indistinct to make out)
Russ: oh, you're juggling.
(Tia
is back to get us to the end pf the session)
Tia: she wants to know how's her channeling doing?
Russ: oh, channeling.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: she needs to speak up a little bit more.
Tia: ahhh. She was a little bit miffed that she
couldn't get it right.
Russ: well, it just came out juggling.
Tia: juggling..... Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. Oh well,
I suppose I'm going to have to sit up for this
channeling session.
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: I have things to do. I'll go skiing.
Russ: you can juggle, can't you?
Tia: yeah, juggle kids quite well. Don't know, ask
me how many books I can juggle?
Russ: ten?
Tia: no.
Russ: how many?
Tia: twenty. I'm a smarty-pants. No, I cheat.
Russ: could you do this for me sometime?
Tia: if I'm in the mood, I can juggle five.
Russ: five, unaided?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: that's incredible.
Tia: yeah. Quickness of the hands.
Russ: that's amazing.
Tia: no it's not, I could do seven if I get real
good.
Russ: twenty would be.......
Tia: unbelievable.
Russ: you would be on David Letterman.
Tia: and if you want, I could put an apple on your
head and split it.
Russ: blindfolded.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: no, better not.
Tia: oh well.
Russ: oh, by the way, one more last question my
dear. How did you like the movie tonight?
Tia: cool running.
Russ: aye mon, it was a nice movie, eh?
Tia: their dialect is a bit hard to understand.
Russ: oh, that's Jamaican.
Tia: ahh.
Russ: aye Rastaman.
Tickle I do not understand why he was going, "Eins!
Zwei! Drei!"
Russ: oh, that's because that's how the Swiss count.
It's a Swiss thing, it's German for 1234.
Tia: ahh.
Russ: and that's what the other teams, how they
count there's up because that's what they're
speaking. So they're trying to copy that.
Tia: that's something to accomplish trying to copy
that.
Russ: right, well that's because he was trying to
copy a professional number one team so we could
incorporate it into his team. And as the story
proved, he didn't have to. It worked better with
their way of doing it.
Tia: uh-huh. Oh well, I've got to go.
Russ: all right darling.
Tia: and next time....
Russ: shoot me.
Tia: don't forget buddy.
Russ: I won't. That's a cardinal sin....
Tia: otherwise, watch yourself. See you later
alligator.
Russ: okay dear. Juggling queen.
Tia: uh-huh. Do I have things in my head?
Russ: no.
Tia: then why are you calling me an animal?
Russ: I called you the juggling queen.
Tia: no, you said deer. Got ya. Well, bye. Do you
want to switch it off?
Russ: no, no, no. Never know. Someone might pop in
all of a sudden.
Tia: well, she's on the ski slopes which is where
I'm heading.
Russ: oh, she is? Okay, in that case I'll shut it
off.
THE SESSION ENDS
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(Tia is back to start a new session until the side
finishes)
Russ: pause is off.
Tia: are you sure? 100% sure? Check or do I have to
get Kiri in?
Russ: yep, we are set and kicking.
Tia: sounds like it's running but where is it
running to, hmmm?
Russ: up the spout, down the spout.
Tia: incy-wincy spider went climbing up the spout.
Down came the rain and washed poor incy out. Out
came the sun and dried poor Incy out and now
incy-wincy spider has a set of armor plate.
Russ: do you sing your kids to sleep at night with
this little tune of yours?
Tia: no.
Russ: good evening Tia.
Tia: good evening.
Russ: how are you tonight?
Tia: no guests?
Russ: they flaked, as I predicted they would.
Tia: oh well, not to worry.
Russ: it's so lonely here. Just me and you and the
kids, the girls and the guys.
Tia: well somebody up here is not a happy camper at
the moment.
Russ: oh, what happened?.
Tia: well, she overheard a song being played.
Russ: oh.
Tia: are we having fun yet?
Russ: we are always having as good a time as we
possibly can no matter what.
Tia: that's the spirit.
Russ: all right.
Tia: okay.
Russ: I believe the term was this morning used,
"we're going to hell in a hand basket but at least
were enjoying the ride".
Tia: uh-huh. That's the way it is.
Russ: and, as for enjoying the ride, tonight we're
going to enjoy the ride. And you ask, "how are we
going to enjoy the ride?"
Tia: no, I'm gonna ask what is that cat up to?
Russ: she sharpening her claws so she can dig into
Mark's shoulder.
Tia: ahhhh. There's only one person that allowed dig
her claws into Mark. Two people.
Russ: two people, three kids, one child so that's
four kids.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: the list goes on and on.
Tia: responsibility I think it's called.
(Tia says something in Durondedunn)
Russ: oh, Tia.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: did you manage to find similarities in your
cultural histories from your world concerning
Minerva?
Tia: working on it but I've got other stuff to do,
you know?
Russ: well I'm sure. I figured your kids came first.
Tia: oh yeah, but at the moment she's not asking
questions like that.
Russ: oh.
Tia: but I am looking into people shape shifting.
Russ: okay, just thought you might have come across
it.
Tia: no, not recently, no.
Russ: good. All right now, and my brain is switched
on, who is up tonight?
Tia: we have the ever faithful, ever
mischievous.......
Russ: Karra?
Tia: got ya. You thought I was going to say Kiri.
Russ: mischievous, my baby?
Tia: she can be.
Russ: ohhhh.....
Tia: she can be humorous
when she wants to be.
Russ: mischievous is different from humorous.
Tia: okay, we have the ever present, ever faithful,
ever mischievous Kiri. The ever sensible, ever
wisdom-like Karra. We have the ever present,
suicidal maniac which stands on his head and
whistles funny songs,
Omal. I'm having fun with you.
Russ: okay. I was trying to think of something he
was doing maybe you were looking at.
Tia: who else do we got here? Alana, she's going to
head over and possibly Luna. Taal, we don't know
where he is.
Russ: well that was playing it by ear anyway.
Tia: yeah, he is on the base.
Russ: that's good to know.
Tia: uh-huh, but where we do not know as our
computer is separate from their computer but they do
tie-in occasionally.
Russ: fair enough then. Sounds like it will be a fun
night.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: good. Okay, this evening, the topic shall
revolve around communication......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and healing.
Tia: and I'm out of work then, aren't I?
Russ: not really. I've got some stuff directly,
specifically for you by yourself.
Tia: uh-huh?
Russ: questions for you.
Tia: oh. Okay, let's hit the road Jack.
Russ: it's a deal.
Tia: and don't you come back no more. Hit the road
Jack.
Russ: okay, now then, as an introduction to this
evening, we shall place a title onto tonight's
session and it will be....
Tia: to be or not to be.
Russ: what was the question? The title of tonight's
session is welcome to other worlds.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now, the reason for the name is the fact that
we're looking in........or at least I am looking in
at a way of communicating what we've learned into a
prose or a way of getting it down on paper.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: such as what Mark's doing. It's inspiring me
to great heights. You have Kiri and you guys all
collaborating, I figured well, I might as well throw
my two cents worth in.
Tia: can we get to collaborate with you?
Russ: of course you can.
Tia: so I can be very talented twice in one day.
Russ: okay, now.........
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: the basics of this little manual you might
call it here is a fictional representation of what a
introductory manual to another higher form of
consciousness.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so that someone making the transition between
dimensions wouldn't find themselves totally lost and
confused were they to find themselves suddenly
thrust upon a new dimensional space.
Tia: so in other words, you want my life story.
Well, it starts off that I was born. I was one of a
litter of two. Or was it three? No, it was two.
Russ: small litter.
Tia: uh-huh. Well, two or three is quite normal.
Four, occasionally. Five, very, very rarely. Six,
almost unheard of but not totally. Seven, one in a
million, one in two million. One in four million
even. But the normal is two to three.
Russ: okay.
Tia: well, I was born into a medium sized family of
a mother and father. I had brothers and sisters but
if I remember it was all sisters. Identical twin
sister.
Russ: oh.
Tia: uh-huh. Which is quite unusual but not totally
identical. She was identical at birth but she as she
got older I'm the taller in my family. The tallest
in my family as a matter of fact.
Russ: there's a metal picture.
Tia: uh-huh. And her hair is not as flamboyant
or.............can't do that. What happened? No hair
to flick.
Russ: all of a sudden I saw the hair go push. You
did that so naturally it was like you've been doing
it all your life.
Tia: oh, I've always had long hair, even when I was
a young cub.
Russ: but I mean, the illusion was there.
Tia: ahhhh. Practices it, nice and gentle flip the
hair, that little flick at the end. uh-huh.
Russ: okay.
Tia: okay? Now I was born into a nice, comfortable
sized family in a well-developed part of the planet.
My mother was a great huntress, she loved to hunt
using her own cunning and skill.
Russ:hmmm.
Tia: you go hmmm, why?
Russ: well, because a lot of similarities between
that and the felines of the hunter prey type of
families down here like the big cats.
Tia: oh.
Russ: the male sits around and does nothing and the
female does everything.
Tia: no, my father worked.
Russ: oh.
Tia: he was a bioengineer.
Russ: really?
Tia: uh-huh. But hunting, we don't have to hunt. We
have places where we go to buy food.
Russ: so it was more of a sport sort of?
Tia: yeah, it was a sport and it's a necessary
survival instinct. It was necessary sometimes to go
out and hunt.
Russ: you too?
Tia: oh, I like to hunt.
Russ: you do?
Tia: uh-huh. I can run real fast on my feet. But
it's more of a ritualistic hunt nowadays. We
don't......how you do it when they put on funny
colored clothing?
Russ: camouflage.
Tia: yeah, and take a weapon. We do it without
weapons and absolutely naked. But it's particular
times of the year that we go hunting. My mother
taught me how to hunt and I'm quite an effective
huntress.
Russ: I agree.
Tia: uh-huh. It's all in the wrist you know. A snap
of the neck. A quick, painless death. But I take
trips occasionally to go offhunting.
Russ: Tia, this is a whole other side of you I had
never even pictured before.
Tia: you've always pictured me as being very
peaceful and fun-loving and liking to curl up next
to the nice warm human?
Russ: something like that.
Tia: mind you, I don't have time to do it as much as
I'd like to.
Russ: I mean the only time I've seen you or heard of
you hunting was on the racquetball court.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: where your natural ability comes out.
Tia: oh yeah. You see, I can run.......my top
speed's about thirty miles an hour I think? Yeah,
about thirty miles of your miles and hour.
Russ: that's quick.
Tia: uh-huh. And I keep it up for about a minute and
a half.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: uh-huh. Anyway, where was I? Oh yes, my mother
taught us girls how to hunt. And I went to school to
study various types of education. Literature,
poetry, music, what else did I study? Cuisine, but I
wasn't very good at that. I wanted to drop it.
Russ: history?
Tia: hmmm, a little but not much. It was boring.
Russ: it is?
Tia: in the third period of time, the great warriors
amassed an army to subjugate the people. And a great
Queen rose up out of the masses to protect her
family, which is meant to be the country.
Russ: very patriotic stuff.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah. It's all....yeah. I also studied
lands, navigation. See, I wanted to be working on a
short haul freighters which at the time I thought
was long-haul from my home planet to the next planet
out.
Russ: oh.
Tia: uh-huh. There's only four planets in the system
anyway.
Russ: the space capabilities?
Tia: limited, limited. But at the time we thought it
was pretty damn good that we could travel out to our
furthest planet.
Russ: welcome to Ashtar Command.
Tia: yeah. It would take about a year and a half to
get out there.
Russ: wow.
Tia: okay, so what parts of my life do you want to
knowabout?
Russ: after you had the transition from third to
fifth......
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: how you managed to become assimilated in the
fifth dimension compared to the third dimension?
Tia: I don't really remember that much about it
because according to Korton, what they did was that
they cloned me and then they transferred my
knowledge into my new body.
Russ: well, did you have to learn how to become
acquainted with fifth dimension and was there any
changes to get used to that you weren't used to?
Tia: yeah, there was one major change was the fact
that everything was much, much more simpler.
Russ: simpler?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: you mean you didn't have to do anything or
getting things?
Tia: well doing things.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: the fact that if you notice that I clean my
apartment or our apartment?
Russ: spectacularly spotless.
Tia: yes, I don't have to do that but that's
something I still haven't got used to.
Russ: oh.
Tia: like going around dusting things and don't have
to do that.
Russ: how is it done normally?
Tia: computer takes care of it.
Russ: that's handy.
Tia: uh-huh. What else? Replicators, I like real
meat.
Russ: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh. I like fresh meat.
Russ: yeah, I know.
Tia: and replicators doesn't taste quite right to
me.
Russ: it doesn't?
Tia: no, it's slightly off. The taste isn't quite as
strong and as pungent.
Russ: can't you change that?
Tia: I tried but the computer doesn't seem to reason
out.....
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SIDE TWO
(Tia returns her story)
Russ: well you did handle it.
Tia: yeah, I did handle it. But I always kept it
under the people that are operant in our family
are not looked at very well. They're looked at
more as very strange, odd. Freaks even.
Russ: okay, now, let's go back to that point if I
could.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so, you had made the jump yet, you're still
on third dimension. Got a little bit of PK........
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: but you're seeing as being sort of out of
place.
Tia: yeah.
Russ: okay. Now, was there anybody there on your
planet who could have helped you with that? To
increase your PK or understand what you're going
through?
Tia: there probably was but I was quite young. I
was about eighteen at the time and I didn't know
that much of the world, of my planet.
Russ: okay. So it wasn't frowned upon, it was more
like what we have down here? Sort of a grudging
acceptance?
Tia: it wasn't even a grudging except. It was,
freak.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: more of an outcast than.........although we
are quite advanced and civilized, we're also still
quite primitive in some of our things.
Russ: good. Well I'm glad you brought that up
because that's the focus of my book.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: is assisting the changeover and assisting
those people who feel out of place because of
that.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: and it sounds like you're right where a lot
of us are down here.
Tia: well, apart from the fact that it was more
along the lines that they would take us to medical
treatment if they came across us.
Russ: what would the medical treatment do?
Tia: basically fry your brains out. Try to make
you normal.
Russ: so it's not exactly grudging acceptance.
Tia: no. It was looked at more along the lines of
a medical illness.
Russ: so if you started moving a cup around or
something you're lobotomized or something?
Tia: uh-huh, eventually. There are more and more
of us. I think it's a natural evolution in the
mind of our young.
Russ: was there like a group of people who were
like gave each other support for this kind of
stuff possibly?
Tia: yes, I think there might have been but as I
say, I was quite young.
Russ: yeah, right.
Tia: and coming from a rural area and out in the
country, there wasn't anywhere to go.
Russ: now you got it from genetically.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: it was passed on to you.
Tia: yes. Now, I never did find out if my mother
ever quite possessed it.
Russ: hmm, I see.
Tia: as far as they know, apparently I died of a
massive heart attack.
Russ: well did you ever have any kind of
telepathic bond with your sister?
Tia: yes we did. Telepathy is something that isn't
frowned on. It is the other manifestations of
these capabilities.
Russ: oh, so there were other things that were
accepted.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: oh, I see.
Tia: telepathy for one. Farsighting in a religious
form....
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: and that's about it really.
Russ: so telepathy came across as part of the
hunting techniques.
Tia: yeah, it was communicating with other people
in the pack basically in our history.
Russ: so you can coordinate attacks silently
without no words.
Tia: uh-huh, correct. But that was starting to
fall into disrepute. Well, not disrepute, but
certain to fall out of favor because you can go
down to the place where you purchase the food.
Don't have to go around hunting unless you want to
hunt for fun.
Russ: that's true. I see. Now your mom hunted for
fun.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so it's possible she might have of had that
capability due to the fact that she was......
Tia: oh, I know she had the capability because we
did go on family hunting, me and my sister and
mother on one occasion.
Russ: oh, really?
Tia: yep.
Russ: and so you could pick up that from her too.
Tia: uh-huh. She spooked the animal and it was my
first kill.
Russ: wow.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so that would be the point where she would
say, "coming at ya"....
Tia: uh-huh, direct me and she would tell me it
was changing course, she was on its tail and she
was ready to strike. It's turned left and it's
heading straight towards me and I'd go, "ready..."
and I would leap out and break its neck.
Russ: oh, I see. Okay, so possibly the PK was
somewhere down the line back with the instinctive
image.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: in your ancestry.
Tia: possibly, possibly. But as for manifestation
and shape shifting.....
Russ: that's still.......
Tia: that's still, I don't know.
Russ: what about coercion?
Tia: coercion? Again, I don't know.
Russ: hmm, healing? What did you guys do for
healing?
Tia: herbs and medicines, chemicals nowadays.
Russ: nothing like the crystals?
Tia: no, we don't have the crystal technology, no
trace of it whatsoever.
Russ: hmmm, okay. So, kind of going into fifth
dimension then is like a whole other world.
Tia: uh-huh. The fact that my PK which I always
try to hide, one of my first earliest experiences,
it was I was sitting drinking a cup of tea. Even
back then I liked tea. It was a different type of
tea.
Russ: oh.
Tia: and one of the technicians that had just
brought me out of my cloning process, pushed a cup
towards me without his hands. And I said, "would
you care to have some milk with that?" And I was
quite shocked and I got up to get it it was just a
little bit out of my reach because my arms was
still a little bit heavy and difficult to move and
it just slid into my hand. And I asked the
technician, "did you do that?" And he goes, "no,
was it you? " And I couldn't figure out if it was
me or not so I experimented and it was me.
Russ: so you don't know if the cloning process
might have assisted with that either?
Tia: Korton said it didn't.
Russ: hmmm, okay.
Tia: I estimate if I was to return home to my
native dimension, the third dimension, my PK
ability would be halved. So instead of lifting
four people, it would only be two people.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: I could levitate myself quite well and
probably two hundred pounds more on top of that.
Russ: how about the kittens?
Tia: I think like all three of my kittens.
Russ: that's true, it would be not quite two
hundred pounds.
Tia: it would be lucky if it was thirty pounds all
told.
Russ: I see.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Now that you're making a
transition.....
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: I mean your skills are coming out......
Tia: there's still a bit left with manifesting
still. The only one that I was really strong in
was farsighting. And I was always looked at as
being a very spiritual person.
Russ: so how come you didn't have like an inkling
to go toward a more religious course of study
instead of what you went for?
Tia: hmmm, it didn't appeal to me.
Russ: hmm, it seems you would have have been
steered that way just because of your abilities.
Tia: I'm quite strong-willed you know.
Russ: so I've heard.
(Russ laughs)
Russ: but that's what we love about you.
Tia: thank you. Besides, nobody.....
Russ: your foot's like a tail going wish, wish.
Tia: nobody pressures anybody on my home planet.
Russ: well, that.......
Tia: it is, you do what you desire to do because
that is what you will be best at.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: unless of course you're totally unsuited for
it and then it will be pointed out to you and it's
to you to make the choice. And if you don't, you
don't make the grade you don't spot it.
Russ: I see. Well did you have a monotheistic or
polytheistic culture?
Tia: hmm, you mean gods?
Russ: yeah, was it gods or God? It scratch that.
Tia: it was gods........
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: and goddesses. You see, the female of our
species is more dominant?
Russ: well that would make sense.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: so do your legends of gods and goddesses
correspond with ours sort of?
Tia: no. I don't know that much about your God
system. We have greater gods and lesser gods
and.......
Russ: I'm thinking ride of the Valkyries kind of
thing.
(Tia giggles)
Tia: but no, we don't have things like shield
maidens because war was always a male and female
thing.
Russ: hmmm.
Tia: it was never just a solely in pursuit of the
males.
Russ: well now, did you have things like in your
histories that you can remember extraterrestrial
encounters and stuff?
Tia: stories and legends. Nothing conclusive.
Russ: right. There's nothing like a history where
you might've had contact that assisted the race
sort of?
Tia: anything's possible. As I say, I didn't study
much in the way of history.
Russ: oh. Well I'm just trying to see if maybe
there was like a race that went through the
galaxies assisting planets and stuff kind of?
Tia: hmm, that's an interesting theory, you ought
to bring that up with Omal?
Russ: yeah, I'm thinking about that fact.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, well that's about all I have now
but.....
Tia: I'll help you with your story if you wish.
Russ: oh, I'd love it but I don't want to hog all
the conversation.
Tia: okey-dokey.
Russ: thank you very much Tia.
Tia: I'll be back, I'm bring mistress.
Russ: okay, I'll see you later then.
Tia: uh-huh. What's so funny?
Russ: you're thrashing your tail.
Tia: but I don't have a tail that's visible
anymore. I have a little bump but that's about it.
Russ: yeah, but your foot kind of corresponds with
a tail.
(Kiri is the next speaker of
the night)
Russ: hi Kiri?
Kiri: so, what do you want to know?
Russ: well, as you might've heard from our
conversation with Tia, I'm working on the
transference from working from one dimension to
another........
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: or at least being able to alleviate the
strangeness one might feel at being at a higher
consciousness.
Kiri: uh-huh, yes. But the adjustment going from
third to fifth is quite funny actually. It feels a
little bit like everything becomes so sensitive.
Your fingers, everything, the skin, your eyes.
Your sense of smell, sense of touch, sense of
hearing, everything becomes so sensitive to start
off with and then you get used to it.
Russ: kind of like taking a dip in the pool sort
of.
Kiri: hmmm, very much more so. Also everything
feels so sensitive.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: everything. Tongue, from that area,
everything becomes so sensitive. And you can feel
every strand of hair and you can feel from that
strand of hair you get kind of mental babbling
from everybody that you have to shield out. What
else? The light is a little too bright at times,
you have to wear sunshades to start off with.
That's how you can tell somebody that's recently
ascended is because they had dark glasses on. And
of course when they come down to the third
dimension they have the same problem that they
need to wear dark glasses. "She wears dark
glasses, things are looking great but they're only
getting better".
Russ: hmmm, okay. Now.....
Kiri: "the future's so bright I've got to wear
shades".
Russ: I know Karra made the transition from third
to fifth.....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: did you come into the world as fifth
dimensional?
Kiri: yeah, I'm afraid so. She wasn't that old
when it happened. She was just a teenager bumming
around.
Russ: I see.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: yeah, but you do go back to third once in a
while, don't you?
Kiri: oh yeah. When I have some archaeological
stuff to do like that trip I made when I was
pregnant and I needed to get away and get
adjusted. So I went to third dimension and did a
little bit of work there. I also dropped off and
saw my father in fifth dimension on the way there
and then I came back. And to me it was like three
months had passed.
Russ: so it was like you're cutting your senses
down.
Kiri: no, you're increasing your senses.
Russ: when you're going to third.
Kiri: hmm, when you go to fifth to third you're
already sensitive....
Russ: right.
Kiri: nothing gets dampened out.
Russ: oh, it doesn't?
Kiri: no. It's when you make that jump to a higher
dimension, that's when everything gets real
sensitive.
Russ: hmmm, okay. Now, you came to Hades Base from
Sirius.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: so therefore, when you got to Hades Base
this was sort of like a new environment for you.
Kiri: yeah, but I was already used to fifth
dimension.
Russ: okay. But, let's go over real quick and put
on new environment changes..........
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: since that will help with my research also.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: okay. When you arrived on Hades Base......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: how did you get oriented around?
Kiri: well, we went to.........there was a number
of us and we went to the meeting hall where we
were interviewed by various members of the Council
in our various fields. I was interviewed by
Korton, we went for a medical checkup, we were
then interviewed by three members of the Council,
two of them being Korton and Omal, and then the
ones that didn't quite fit or weren't suitable to
work here were sent elsewhere to a different
place.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: so out of the group of ten of us, only six
of us were accepted for here.
Russ: hmmm. You still have contact with those six?
Kiri: oh yeah, there's only two of us original
people left here now.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: uh-huh. And yes, I do keep in contact with
her from time to time. We get together, we drink,
we have fun and talk about old times and about the
trip here. Because we didn't come directly from
Sirius to here.....
Russ: oh, you didn't?
Kiri: no, no, we came from way, way, way, way, way
out there.
Russ: oh, I see.
Kiri: no, it was a three week trip to get here.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: it was a fun time.
Russ: no doubt. Okay.....
Kiri: and she has two kids.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: but it was just an act of necessity for her.
Russ: oh, I see.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: she's surprised you have a kid now?
Kiri: oh yes. I didn't see her for quite a while,
almost a year.
Russ: wow.
Kiri: because she was kept busy and her schedule's
different from mine and I'm down in the crèche and
there she is and I'm with little Alex.
Russ: that must have been quite the reunion.
Kiri: uh-huh, it was actually. Yes, I knew that
she had one, I didn't know she had another one.
Russ: wow.
Kiri: and we talked about old times and we had fun
together and........
Russ: hmm, sounds like fun.
Kiri: just the two of us and three children.
Russ: three children.
Kiri: uh-huh. They're a little bit older than
Alex.
Russ: oh. Okay, now after you got interviewed by
the Council......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: how did you start assimilating how things
worked on Hades Base?
Kiri: well.....
Russ: I mean, where they real similar to where you
had already left?
Kiri: the layout was quite different and what I
had was a little communicator thingy.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: like a chronometer.
Russ: oh, you wore it on your wrist kind of?
Kiri: uh-huh. And it did all sorts of things for
me.
Russ: like a computer patchwork type of thing?
Kiri: yeah, kind of. I'd say, "computer, how do I
get to my apartment 7B, level III?" And the
computer would say, "you proceed along to sector
whatever, you arrive at junction whatever, you
take the elevator up or down, you exit the
elevator on whichever floor and so on.
Russ: it seems like you would get lost in a place
like that.
Kiri: oh yeah. Or, if you wanted to be more
precise is, you would ask it to light a path for
you and it would light it from various consoles to
various consoles.
Russ: oh, that's handy.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: wow. So how easy was it to make the
transition To Hades Base?
Kiri: oh, it was quite easy. It was very simple,
it was like being in a new place. Like anywhere,
you have to get used to it.
Russ: hmmm, what about new people and stuff that
you meet?
Kiri: new people........well, when I first arrived
I was on a very strange schedule. I slept whilst
almost everybody else was working.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: so I kind of had the run of the base during
the rest hours and instead of having 60% of the
personnel on duty, there's only 33% of the
personnel on duty.
Russ: did you meet a lot of new people, new
friends right away?
Kiri: well people were very helpful.
Russ: oh, they were?
Kiri: but my natural reserve to start off with
kind of kept me away from from wants. And of
course, big sis was already here.
Russ: oh, that's true.
Kiri: so I spent quite a bit of time with her and
helping her and she helped me and introduced me to
a few people knowing my interest.
Russ: so you already had the job lined up before
you got there.
Kiri: uh-huh yeah, she helped me a lot.
Russ: hmm, good. Now, did you get assigned anybody
like someone like a counselor or something to
assist you through any transitional problems?
Kiri: no, I had access to a counselor. I could
make an appointment by asking for the name of an
available counselor.
Russ: oh.
Kiri: and if I wanted to be counseled....
Russ: I see. But you never went to him?
Kiri: no, I had big sis to help me.
Russ: that's the the counselor among counselors.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: okay. Oh, we've got lots of tape for the
next person.
Kiri: I just wanted to make sure it was working
properly.
Russ: now then.......
Kiri: yeah?
Russ: did you have any desire to learn any other
skills besides coercion which you've got.
Kiri: well they've kept me pretty busy you know
and they still do. Doing........well, when my
talent for designing things became known......
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and then my engineering skills......
Russ: right.
Kiri: kept me real busy.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: I'm also responsible for a slight
modification in the couch of the pilot craft.
Russ: oh you are?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: which one was that?
Kiri: well you know the way that you've got the
thing that comes up between the legs.....
Russ: right, yeah.
Kiri: right. You know that if you squeeze on it it
adjusts the seat. Makes it narrower or wider.
Russ: it does?
Kiri: yeah, you want to try it sometime.
Russ: I just figured it was the way it was
supposed to be.
Kiri: squeeze on it.....
Russ: oh.
Kiri: and see what happens. Squeeze with one leg
and it becomes narrower, squeeze it with the other
leg becomes wider, squeeze with both legs, right?
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and moves it up or down......
Russ: oh.
Kiri: depending on the amount of pressure. Twist
your legs slightly, right?
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and........what does it do? Raises and
lowers it this way if you twist it this way. Twist
it this way and pull up slightly...........it's a
long time since I worked on that.
Russ: well, I had it raised me up......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: to a full horizontal layout......
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: from a vertical position....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: it was merely a mental command.
Kiri: yeah, that is also another function but it's
a fail safe system.
Russ: oh, I see.
Kiri: yeah. But is designed by........
Russ: I assumed you my dear.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well, one of my jobs. And then of
course designing clothing and stuff for the base.
Ladies gear, and doing fittings for them.
Russ: okay. Now, did you ever find a point where
it's ever been lonely for you?
Kiri: no, I've always had big sis here. Besides, I
can always talk to somebody.
Russ: hmm.
Kiri: and there's always somebody that's available
for entertainment purposes.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: okay, next question.
Russ: do you have any kind of like regrets?
Kiri: no. Everything I do, I do with the precise,
specific purpose.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: probably the only regret that I have is that
I didn't meet you guys earlier. I didn't try men
out.
Russ: well yeah, that's not a real major regret.
Kiri: no.
Kiri: okay. All right, now what would you say
probably is your biggest lesson you've learned
since you've been on Hades Base?
Kiri: patience.
Russ: you were impatient before?
Kiri: uh-huh. I was an impetuous youth as my
sister used to say.
Russ: your dad says it as well.
Kiri: yes. The fact that I was so wayward and
wasted quite a bit of my youth.
Russ: but you live so long....
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: what's a few years of your youth?
Kiri: I should've studied more.
Russ: hmm. Can't you make up for it up now?
Kiri: well I'm trying to but I have a lot more
responsibility now.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: I'm not a department head or anything like
like big sis is, Miss Smarty-pants, but I do have
my responsibilities. I have deadlines to do. That
must taste absolutely horrible.
Russ: it's an acquired taste.
Kiri: stand up.
(Russ starts laughing)
Kiri: sit down.
Russ: yes?
Kiri: stand up again.
Russ: only because it's you that's asking that I
do these things.
Kiri: touch your toes.
Russ: uh-huh?
Kiri: demonstration of coercion.
Russ: I just thought I was being polite. By the
way......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: thank you for all your help with your
coercion of Mark.
Kiri: well, that's one of my projects that I'm
working on.
Russ: okay.
Kiri: more questions?
Russ: hmm, I want to save a few for later as I
work on this.
Kiri: okay.
Russ: but you gave me kind of a gist of where I'm
going with this.
Kiri: yeah. You want to know how I felt about
coming to work in a new environment.
Russ: right, how easy it was to make the
transition to a new environment.
Kiri: the transition wasn't a problem. What was a
problem was the fact that I was still quite a
young girl and I was nervous about being at a new
place.
Russ: hmmm. Now did you know basically about
Ashtar Command........
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah.
Russ: the scope of it and everything?
Kiri: no, I didn't know how big it was.
Russ: oh, so you've learned about it since?
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: now, is that some thing that you are kind of
almost amazed at a little bit?
Kiri: yeah, I am a little bit actually, it is
quite large.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: understaffed, definitely. But for what they
do, for what we do, it is incredible.
Russ: oh yeah? But some people don't need that
much sleep.
Russ: right. Well the way they use the labor they
have.......
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: and the skills that they have is very
economical.
Kiri: uh-huh. And the way that we're increasing
our numbers is by procreation. Some people, like
my friend that came out with me....
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: she sees it as......
Russ: a duty?
Kiri: yeah, a duty. It's not something she enjoys.
Russ: hmmm.
Kiri: but yeah, when I got pregnant it was
enjoyable. She makes babies the normal way, she
doesn't use an artificial inseminator or anything,
and it's kind of, "yeah, oh well, I suppose I
better get this over and done with, get pregnant
as quickly as possible" as she keeps it by her.
Russ: hmm.
Kiri: and she's losing out on that unfortunately.
Russ: yeah indeed. But it's her choice to have the
children.
Kiri: uh-huh, yeah. She wasn't told you will have
children but it's explained to us when we first
get here are various duties.
Russ: uh-huh.
Kiri: and they tell us which departments we'll be
working in, what our duties are and they will say,
"and we would greatly appreciate it if you would
help us with increasing our numbers of people
here, our procreation. But the choice is yours,
it's up to you. If you want children, that's fine.
Russ: did they ease you into a work schedule? Like
very little at first?
Kiri: actually, it's the opposite way around. They
gave us a lot.
Russ: so it would keep your minds busy?
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: ohhhh.
Kiri: uh-huh. I was working in the engineering
section, which I still do, I was helping with
designing equipment, testing the equipment, I was
also doing a lot of research.
Russ: hmmm. Now, did you have people above you who
supervised and stuff?
Kiri: yes, still do.
Russ: hmm, I see.
Kiri: don't see them much though.
Russ: how do they work well as far as.....
Kiri: they can be overbearing sometimes. Breathing
down your neck. Especially when you're working on
something quite important.
Russ: hmmm, okay.
Kiri: but it's not deliberate. It is the fact that
they're concerned that they want to know exactly
how you're doing it so it can be reproduced
exactly that way if it comes out well.
Russ: I see.
Kiri: and of course I'm hopeless at keeping notes.
Russ: well can't you have the computer doing a lot
of keeping notes and stuff for you?
Kiri: well it's also what you're thinking as well.
Russ: oh I see.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: hmm, you keep kind of like a running
commentary.
Kiri: well that's what I tried to do, but
occasionally like now I'm thinking of something.
And if you were to ask me what I was thinking,
well actually I probably would make you blush.
Russ: nothing can make me blush so that's not a
problem.
Kiri: uh-huh. If I told you what I was wearing I'd
make you blush.
(Russ bursts out laughing)
Russ: indeed I'm sure.
Kiri: yeah.
Russ: okay, well that's all I have for now. Like I
say, will go into more of this later.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: getting an idea here as we go along. Still
have others to work with.
Kiri: okay, do you want to switch that off once
we....
(We hear the tape switch off and then come back on
again)
Kiri: okay.
Russ: now, we're both sure it's working.
Kiri: yeah, heh heh.
Russ: all right, back again.
Kiri: yeah, back again. Okay.
Russ: well you have a fun night.
Kiri: oh yeah.
Russ: enjoy the rest of it and I'll talk to you
soon.
Kiri: uh-huh, I'm out of here.
Russ: bye love.
Kiri: bye.
(Omal
gets us to the end of the session)
Omal: greetings and felicitations, Russ.
Russ: a sane voice in the crowd, hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Omal.
Omal: greetings once again.
Russ: greetings again.
Omal: okay, let us proceed with questions and
answers.
Russ: okay.
Omal: first question.
Russ: was that Roger then you were talking to the
other day?
Omal: I can't confirm or deny that.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: yes, it was unfortunate that Mark happened
to be wandering along at that time.
Russ: okay. So Roger doesn't know about us then
going on or you can't confirm or deny that either?
Omal: hmmm, if you wish, and he asks, we will
inform him.
Russ: please.
Omal: okay, I will do so.
Russ: thank you. All right. I would just like him
to know we made good.
Omal: well, we will inform him that you are
studying. We will not tell him how far you have
progressed unless of course he starts asking
specific and precise questions.
Russ: okay. Well, it doesn't matter. I wouldn't
mind him knowing, I'm just glad to let him know
that we didn't forget about him or anything. I
still think about him a lot.
Omal: okay.
Russ: okay. Now then, as you've been hearing,
we've been working on........or at least I've been
working on with the girls here ideas for a way of
spreading some communication around.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, what I want to work with you possibly,
what is restricted that we discussed and what is
available? Now, a lot of stuff I already of course
from common sense know which is restricted such as
things like meta-concert details....
Omal: yes.
Russ: actual people or species.
Omal: hmmm, yes, actual species, names although
certain young ladies up here are looking for
notoriety on your planet.
Russ: no doubt. Is Ashtar Command a workable name
due to that it is used so much already?
Omal: yes. As it it is already known, you are
permitted to use Ashtar Command.
Russ: that's as far as I take it though.
Omal: yes. Names of personnel?
Russ: just Kiri and......
Omal: as for myself, yes, you can use my name.
Russ: I can?
Omal: you have to ask Korton if you can use his
and the same with Kornas and Ashtar. You have to
ask each individual.
Russ: well, I wasn't planning on using those names
actually.
Omal: okay, if you want to proceed without using
names or make names up, that is much easier.
Russ: I mean the names I could make up would be
more believable than the ones you guys already
use.
Omal: oh, yes. You mean to say it is not
believable that I am called Omal? What would you
would you wish me to be called?
Russ: Fred?
Omal: Stanley.
Russ: oh please, that's way worse. Okay, I see
your point though.
Omal: Francis?
Russ: all right, I know what you mean. Basically
yeah, it's fictitious names.
Omal: yes.
Russ: the names have been changed to protect some
really great people kind of thing.
Omal: the names have changed to protect the guilty
and the innocent.
Russ: and everyone in between.
Omal: the guilty and the very guilty. Or the
innocent and the very not innocent.
Russ: indeed.
Omal: and she is not very innocent, is she? Both
of them.
Russ: well, young and in love. Happy that they are
the way they are.
Omal: in love with each other as well as young
love I believe.
Russ: indeed, well.....
Omal: oh, we have a guest that is just arriving.
Russ: oh, excellent.
Omal: two guests.
Russ: wow, cause for celebration.
Omal: well, we will see.
Russ: okay.
Omar, let us continue.
Russ: all right. Now, on other things that we've
talked about, besides what I had been mentioned
were restricted........
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: what else could you suggest would be
restricted? Otherwise, I mean, how much......
Omal: shielding and the more advanced techniques
of shielding.
Russ: okay, so basic shielding.
Omal: yes, basic shielding is usable......
Russ: okay.
Omal: the more detailed explanation of coercion.
This is not because it would be a breach of
security, but at the moment it could be misused.
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: explaining the aggressive functions of
manifestation.
Russ: there are some?
Omal: oh yes.
Russ: we haven't discussed it.
Omal: the aggressive functions of psychokinesis.
We suggest that you keep your book peaceful
otherwise the channeler appears to have a little
bit of a bent in his regression.
Russ: well, you know me.
Omal: uh-huh. But such things as
elixirs..........when you describe how to get from
one place to another up here, please change it as
that is a breach of security.
Russ: okay. I was just thinking of just using the
farsighting map that I use.
Omal: yep. But I mean when you're going from point
A to point.........ahh yes, I understand.
Russ: right. I mean a lot of this is going to be
real fictional.......
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: nothing even looking like what is actually
there........
Omal: yes.
Russ: only because if they find it out for
themselves, great.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: but all I'm trying to do is just bring about
the fact that you who are in a third dimensional
world and are wondering about what these changes
are going on in your mind and your body.......
Omal: me personally?
Russ: oh, no, I was speaking....
Omal: metaphorically.
Russ: metaphorically, of course.
Omal: I am correcting you though.
Russ: thank you. But what the world and other
worlds are like besides. And just to give an idea
of the more fanciful nature of things.
Omal: yes. Could I ask a question?
Russ: sure.
Omal: what is the significance of this from Tia?
Russ: oh, her tail twitching?
Omal: but she does not have a tail.
Russ: right. But it's a sympathetic movement.
Omal: ahhh. The phantom tail.
Russ: the phantom tail, correct, right.
Omal: ahh.
Russ: when you don't have one, you use something
close by.
Omal: yes. I was watching Tia, not the monitor
when she was channeling to keep an eye on her
signs to make sure she was keeping a nice, even
energy flow and her feet were not twitching.
Russ: oh.
Omal: and I could not follow the.....
Russ: oh, the conversation?
Omal: yes.
Russ: oh.
Omal: okay, let us proceed with your next
question.
Russ: okay, what we're discussing now is dimension
transition.
Omal: okay.
Russ: and what this manual I'm working on will do
is to prepare a person for that dimension
transition.
Omal: as in doing a......
Russ: third to fifth, third to sixth.......
Omal: yeah, a shift.
Russ: a shift, correct. And what to expect as far
as if you were to suddenly find yourself on Hades
Base.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: which, though it sounds strange, at least
something after reading this would give you the
proper etiquette.
Omal: yes, the proper protocol.
Russ: right. For example, you mentioned the fact
don't be reaching up and kissing Wookies.
Omal: uh-huh, they do tend to rip people's arms
off.
Russ: right. Now things like that are important
though it wouldn't be mentioned in that way of
course......
Omal: yes.
Russ: something on the similar lines though as far
as what is allowed and what isn't.
Omal: well, farsighting into somebody's private
space is not recommended.
Russ: right.
Omal: coercing somebody in a negative form or
something invading their privacy by coercing them
in a way. For example, you see a very attractive
young lady and you think, 'boy, now could I have
some fun with her" and you start to coerce her.
That's very naughty. Listening into somebody's
private conversation telepathically when they're
talking to somebody on the declamatory mode, you
filter it out. Intercepting somebody's hail when
they're hailing somebody. Most of these do not's
are to do with negative issues.
Russ: right.
Omal: disrupting the harmony of particular areas
by using negative energy. What else?
Russ: now, what about purposes of Ashtar Command
for example, or my fictional whatever I'm going to
use?
Omal: we'll leave that to your discretion if you
wish to use. To help your species ascend to a
higher level......
Russ: I can use that then?
Omal: yes, but word it in a more ambiguous way.
Russ: okay.
Omar: instead of being precise and to the
point........
Russ: kind of not shepherding but I see what you
mean.
Omal: yep.
Russ: protecting sort of?
Omal: uh-huh. Protecting, helping, lending a hand
when necessary, advice........
Russ: well to give you an idea of where I'm going
with this........
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: one of the points about it that I want to
bring up is the fact that in the end, I'm looking
at a climax where people from third dimension join
up with people from fifth dimension....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: to battle a common foe.
Omal: and your thinking are trillions?
Russ: well, art trillions of course lend
themselves most easily but there's so many others
out there.......
Omal: yes, we don't recommend using your periods.
Russ: no but I mean fictionalized.
Omal: yes, fictionalized.
Russ: the arterial's could never be as mean as the
people I want to put into it.
Omal: don't use very mean.........
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