SIDE ONE
(Tia gets the session up
to speed)
Tia: hello, I’ve seen you around.
Relax, we don’t bite unless you want us to.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Russ: well how you doing darling?
Tia: I’m doing fine.
Russ: what’s up in the world today?
Tia: ohh, the world.
The
world, well it goes around and around and it orbits
around the sun which is orbiting around in a galaxy.
Russ: all right, stock market then?
Tia: stock market yes, entertaining,
entertaining. Up a 119 points on the Dow, up 30
points on the NASDAQ, up 17 on the S&P 500, at
the moment the Nikkei Dow average is up 97 points.
Russ: it’s been down all week, now
it’s just taking another jump up?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: just a fluctuation?
Tia: remember what I said.
Russ: uh-huh, corrections and
fluctuations.
Tia: uh-huh, but it’s still down 400
points from its highest, well actually close to 500
points.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay ground rules, we
can’t answer questions on the future, we can’t
answer questions on a technical nature that you
don’t have access to normally. That’s knowledge
that’s in the general knowledge pool. We can’t tell
you what you should or should not do, we can’t take
away those learning lessons. That’s important ground
rules that we need to cover. Now, most important
thing is for you to relax.
Russ: well channeling’s a bit of a
stretch to catch on to at first anyway.
Tia: yeah, I know, I know. Okay, any
questions?
Russ: anything at all you’d like to
ask?
Linda M: I really don’t know what her
interests are.
Tia: okay, I’m a political analyst, I
am an astral traveler……
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: and what else do I do? That’s
about it.
Linda M: what is a political analyst
know about communes and stuff?
Tia: communes, hmmm, I know quite a
bit about communes. It depends on the structure of
the commune that you wish to live in.
Linda M: something not too religious
or not religious at all. Something that…..
Tia: in other words, kind of a group
of individuals living together for a common good
without any designated leader.
Linda M: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: with lots of fruit trees and
fabric weaving and you know….
Tia: there’s a couple up in Oregon,
there’s a couple scattered throughout California.
The ones in California you don’t want to get mixed
with.
Linda M: oh why's that?
Tia: mainly because of their
recreational habits. There’s one in…..
Linda M: you mean sexual?
Tia: some of them yes or part of them
are yes. Also they have recreational
pharmaceuticals.
Linda M: what’s that?
Russ: drugs.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: ohh.
Tia: some of them grow their own,
there is one in Mendocino which is entertaining to
say the least. Communes are a good look at how life
will progress.
Linda M: yeah.
Tia: I mean a group of individuals
living together for a common good, not worrying
about the external influences of the world around
them, being independent, self-sufficient, that’s
what you want right?
Linda M: exactly.
Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, people that take
care of each other when they need taking care of but
respect your space.
Linda M: that's what I like, someone
who respects your space.
Tia: there’s a good one in Oregon that
appears to be worth studying….
Russ: is that the one up near where I
was living by Medford and Ashland?
Tia: that’s the place where they have
the Shakespeare Festivals?
Russ: that’s right.
Tia: yeah, that’s one. There’s another
good one up in a valley in Washington where they
grow lots of apples.
Linda: okay.
Tia: uh-huh and they also grow grapes
there and peaches…..actually not peaches….
Russ: pears?
Tia: pears….
Russ: I picked pears in Oregon.
Tia: yeah and little round….
Russ: berries?
Linda M: mullberries?
Tia: I think they’re cherries.
Linda M: hmm.
Tia: what else? Those are two very
good ones. The one up in Washington is a little
strange, it’s kind of semi-politically motivated.
It’s almost a communist type commune.
Russ: hmm.
Tia: but it depends if you want to put
up with that kind of rhetoric and that kind of
environment for the general good.
Russ: alright okay, let me ask a
question real quick. You said that is something that
goes towards the future, something we’re building
towards.
Tia: yes and no.
Russ: okay.
Tia: they are glimpses of how things
might be but….
Russ: in an ideal type setting?
Tia: no, far from it, far from it.
Far, far from it.
Russ: okay.
Tia: morally, some of them…..the one
in Oregon is a good, moral commune. There are
underlying religious tones but not everybody
participates in it. It’s those that wish to do,
those that don’t wish to don’t, those that want to
discuss politics do and those that don’t, don’t.
Those that want to have their own space but yet are
prepared to work for the common good do and those
that don’t want to work for the common good don’t go
there.
Russ: oh I see, so it’s a
prerequisite, you’ve got to basically be able to work
with other people.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: now what about internal friction
between people?
Tia: that is normally discussed which
is good, I mean if you let emotions and feelings
build up inside you, you get angry, you get upset,
you get aggressive and that causes problems.
Russ: okay.
Tia: so it’s best that when there is a
problem, discuss it, get it out in the open. I’ve
always said that talking about things is far better
than bottling them up, I just wish that some people
would listen to me sometimes about that.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Russ: we’re not naming names of
course.
Tia: oh no.
Russ: oh no.
Tia: no, we’re not naming names.
Russ: okay darling, describe yourself
a little bit for Linda.
Tia: oh yes, I'm 5 foot two, I think
you would call me a strawberry blonde but my hair's
more red than blonde. I have pointed ears, I have
blue eyes whereas yours work like this, mine work
like cats.
Linda M: oh!
Tia: uh-huh. I have about three extra
vertebrae in my back which makes me very flexible, I
would say that I am of athletic build although I’m
getting a little bit flabby around the tummy at the
moment. I have a little bump at the end of my spine
where I have a vestige of a tail, I’m descended from
felines.
Linda M: oh.
Tia: so that’s why I started by
going..(says hi in Durondedunn) That
means hello in my language.
Linda M: oh.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: uh-huh.
Linda M: and how far away are you?
Tia: my home planet or where I am
right now?
Linda M: your home planet and where
you’re at right now.
Tia: right now I am about 84,000,000
miles away.
Linda M: that’s a lot.
Tia: yeah comes through pretty clear
doesn’t it?
Linda M: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh. My home planet is about I
should say about 60 light years away?
Linda M: hmm, how did you get to this
planet?
Tia: well I kind of made a silly
little mistake, I did what Mark does.
Linda M: what’s that?
Tia: astral travel.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: now to come up here, Mark does
what they called dimension jumping, which to go from
your dimension which is on the third dimension, you
have to go through the fourth which is time and the
thing is about time is that it’s not just one line.
The best analogy is…..is there a piece of wool or
string kicking around?
Russ: I've got a piece of dental
floss, I don’t know if that’s going to work.
Tia: no that doesn’t work, that’s one
single piece of kind of plasticky type material.
Russ: yeah right, like what? Oh, you
mean that you can split into different pieces?
Tia: uh-huh. Well it’s like a piece of
string that you….
Russ: unravel.
Tia: unravel.
Russ: so it’s like a little pieces of
string coming off of one.
Linda M: oh.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah. It’s all a whole
load of tiny little pieces of string all rolled
together to make a bigger piece of string and time
is like that. You see there's not just one linear
timeline, a timeline is just one aspect of time.
There are many, many different timelines. For
example, here's a little thought exercise for you.
Okay, think of 10 different things that you can do
sitting there right now, let’s hear them.
Russ: steeple my fingers.
Tia: five each from both of you.
Russ: okay, your turn. What can you do
just sitting there?
Linda M: listen?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, ask questions.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: wiggle my foot.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: shake my head.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: acknowledge how many times I
blink?
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay, count to a 100.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: imagine having fun?
Tia: uh-huh, very fun.
Russ: okay, and cross my leg.
Tia: uh-huh.
Linda M: uncross my leg.
Tia: uh-huh okay, in time in the
fourth dimension, all of those things happen at the
exact same time but not altogether. In each
different line they all happen plus the fact that
you could stand up, you could stand up and walk
across the room, you could stand up on one leg, you
could lick your finger and stick it in the air, you
could scratch your nose, scratch your ear, stick
your finger up your nose, stick your finger in your
mouth etc., all those things happen all at
the exact same time. When you travel through time,
doing a dimension jump, if you stop and look at
those……
Linda M: is it like a concussion?
Tia: it’s a little bit more than that.
That’s the first part of it, if you stop and look at
all of those, think of all of those things happening
as we just discussed all at the same time and seeing
all of them at the same time, you would have sensory
overload. Some people go crazy, some people as you
pointed out have a feeling like concussion.
Linda M: you mean where they can't
keep their eyes open?
Tia: they can’t concentrate, they
can’t see anything, they get totally confused and
they find themselves back at their start point or
they find themselves trapped in that time with all
those things happening and all the things that
continue from that point happening all at the same
time and their body is left behind and basically
it’s left in a coma apart state and eventually dies.
What happened to me, I don’t remember too clearly
because when that happens you kind of go back into a
vegetable type state until you are brought to your
waiting period and you analyze things and the
mistakes and everything that you made.
Linda M: oh I went through that the
past five years.
Tia: oh-huh well this is a after death
type of thing.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: okay but you can do it whilst
you’re alive, you can analyze all the things that
you’ve done, all the stupid things and decide where
you can go but when you do a dimension jump and you
make a mistake like that as I said, you either go
crazy, you get stuck in there, you get a feeling
like blow over the head or a implosion in the chest
or in the worst-case scenario you basically die. You
go into shock with what you see, all the
possibilities of everything that you can ever think
of all happening at the same time and you die that's
it, end of story. In my case, it was a very
near-death experience. Basically I was in limbo. My
body, what I did, which is a pretty neat trick if
you can pull it off is I pulled my body in with me.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: so basically all my clothes were
left behind on my native planet and my body was
sucked through with me. I stopped and looked at time
and went into shock, I don’t remember very much
about that. Apparently I came through on the other
side but my body had shut down and my consciousness
had shut down. Basically for all intense purposes my
body was dead, my heart had stopped beating, my
brain was still functioning. When your heart stops,
you have four minutes before the brain starts to
lose oxygen and starts to die.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: that is when people have
near-death experiences which is very similar to
astral travel. If in that four minutes your heart is
restarted you can live or, if you’re put in
suspended animation, time stops for you. You are
parked in that near-death experience which is a
wonderful experience for a long time and then if
somebody happens to be kicking around that happens
to have cloning technology and a higher technology
again and is capable of transferring your
consciousness from one body to another body, you
come back where I am right now. But it’s something
that I don’t recommend.
Russ: she was rescued.
Tia:
uh-huh.
Linda M: oh.
Tia: I was rescued….
Russ: Ashtar Command…well….
Tia: well it wasn’t quite Ashtar
Command.
Russ: right.
Tia: but basically I died. My original
body is basically still intact in a cryogenic unit
which is a deep freeze and it’s used basically if I
need genetic materials. If I have a heart problem or
I do something stupid and destroy my arm, I can have
my other arm stitched on and with certain medical
procedures that I really don’t understand can be
reattached.
Linda M: oh my gosh, has that ever
happened?
Tia: it happened to me.
Linda M: oh good.
Tia: uh-huh, I got a whole new body
out of it but it takes about a year for a body to be
fully cloned.
Linda M: and do you see scars?
Tia: nope.
Linda: hmm.
Tia: in fact I have three scars……
Russ: a missing one that you want
back.
Tia: I have three that I want back.
Russ: okay.
Linda M: three bodies?
Tia: no three scars.
Linda M: oh.
Russ: it's part of her initiation.
Tia: uh-huh, you see on my home planet
it is a matriarchal society.
Linda M: doesn’t that hurt?
Tia: I was young when I had them.
Linda M: how old are you?
Tia: I am 29 in your years.
Linda M: oh my goodness.
Tia: in my years I am 33.
Linda M: oh.
Tia: my planet rotates on a faster
axis. We have 23 hours in our day and we have 300
days in our year.
Linda
M: hmm.
Russ: hmm, now people back on
Durondedunn must’ve been a little bit wondering why
all of a sudden Tia is there and all is left is your
clothes. "Where’d Tia go?" Bit of a story that gets
passed around through the years afterwards.
Tia: hey, I got abducted by aliens.
Happens……..sorry?
Linda M: I was curious, what language
do you speak on your planet?
Tia: well it’s called……..in my
language it's (says a Durondedunn word) Don’t even
try to pronounce it, it’s hard enough to manipulate
Mark’s mouth and tongue to get the sounds right.
Linda M: oh okay.
Tia: we speak a language that is
similar to…..it sounds similar to what your cats
when they meow?
Linda M: yeah.
Tia: partly because our vocal cords
are a little shorter than yours so we're a much
higher octave in our speaking.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: and I don’t sound like the voice
that Mark has or his body is using.
Linda M: do you respect American’s
bodies?
Tia: uh-huh, I respect all life, I
respect all life forms.
Linda M: good.
Tia: on my home planet, death is part
of life. We have ritual hunts that are a reminder of
our past and also help to supply certain religious
organizations and sects with food and it’s done on a
purely religious purpose.
Linda M: you don’t eat the bodies do
you?
Tia: we eat animals like you do.
Linda M: oh, what kind of animals do
you have?
Tia: I don’t know the words for some
of them, we have some very similar to your deer
apart from they're a little bit smaller and they're
a lot, lot faster. We have some very interesting
three-legged animals which have little short bodies
with very powerful back legs but just the one front
leg.
Linda M: how interesting.
Tia: uh-huh, we have animals that have
very, very long limbs that glide through the air and
fly, not like your bats and not like your birds. We
have ohhh…..hate them.......we have a little
creature that is probably about this big and it has
four legs and it's very, very venomous but it’s good
eating as long as you cut the head off to eat them,
that’s where all the poison is. It’s
kind of like a spider but it’s not a spider. We also
have.....…oh it’s a beautiful animal, it’s
ferocious, it’s a herbivore which means it eats
plants only, it comes in big, big
groups and it has nasty, nasty antlers.
Linda M: what, are they poisonous?
Tia: no they’re not poisonous, they
just don’t like being hunted and those are the ones
we hunt for religious ceremonies. They're kind of
like…..what’s that animal that you have
that has the shaggy black head and brown body? It’s
a herbivore on your planet Russ?
Russ: you mean buffaloes?
Tia: yeah, something like that apart
from the horns…..straight out and very, very
pointed.
Linda M: hmm.
Tia: and those are the ones that we
hunt for religious purposes because it takes great
skill to bring one down, it’s very spiritual having
achieved it and the chase is very spiritual. And we
ladies are the only ones that are allowed to hunt
it, we’re the only ones that are allowed to take any
life. So it’s something that’s very, very
intertwined is our religious and spiritual beliefs.
Sorry?
Linda M: I think that’s good.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: also she has phenomenal hearing.
Linda M: good.
Tia: uh-huh, worse than Mark’s.
Russ: well excellent, who’s on tonight
darling?
Tia: okay, we have of course myself,
we have the Kiri monster, we have Karra, Omal and
Korton.
Russ: okay, it’s a big night.
Tia: I wouldn’t say a big night, it’s
just that I believe…..
Russ: just having Korton because we
don’t see him very often.
Tia: uh-huh I believe it's just a
lecture and I’ve taken up plenty of time.
Russ: okay.
Tia: before I go, any more questions?
Linda M: it was really nice talking to
you.
Tia: I’ll be back.
Russ: see you in a while.
Tia: (says goodbye in Durondedunn)
(Omal sits down in
the channeling field)
Omal: greetings and felicitations
Russ, greetings and felicitations young lady.
Russ: Omal, this is Linda, Linda,
Omal.
Omal: it is a pleasure and an honor to
meet you.
Linda M: you as well.
Omal: thank you. Okay, I do not see
much in Tia’s discussion that is not usable. It is
enlightening to hear Tia talk about her culture.
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: her explanations of dimensional
jumps…
Russ: leave it?
Omal: sorry?
Russ: leave it on the web?
Omal: yeah certainly.
Russ: okay.
Omal: but also she did leave out a few
points I think on purpose due to the fact of Tia
being under pressure of time. Talking of time, time
is far more complicated than Tia just
explained, it is not a straight strand of time. It
curves, twists, bends and appears to warp.
It
loops, intertwines and goes around. So by explaining
seeing every possible outcome of one thing all at
the same time is just the tip of the iceberg. Also
what occurs is that you see both the future and the
past all running together with what you perceive in
your reality.
Russ: now Omal, in my various trips
with hallucinogenic materials.....
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I have come across
similar experiences where maybe it’s not all of that
but it’s a portion of that that you see all at once.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: is this kind of closing in on
that gap a little bit when I did that?
Omal: it is glimpsing what is
possible, what time really is.
Russ: oh okay.
Omal: it is a mistake to say time is
linear. Yes it is in an essence, one thing does
follow another in normal third dimensional space,
your space. However, in fourth dimensional space or
time it does not. It is much like……..okay it is
about to get very deep and heavy. I think probably
few people will understand it that don’t have a
grasp of quantum physics and I believe that is one
of Mark’s favorite subjects is it not?
Russ: it is.
Omal: okay for the benefit of Mark.
Okay, the nearest that can be experienced in normal
time is at the event horizon. Now the event horizon
is that point as you approach the speed of light in
normal space. If I am boring you let me know.
Linda M: (yawns) I’m sorry.
Omal: that is all right. In normal
space, as you approach the speed of light, time
slows down. As you approach the event horizon which
is the speed of light, time stops although for the
observer outside of the object approaching the speed
of light, time runs at a normal rate. The change is
not perceived, it just looks like it’s moving very
fast. For the observer inside the object as it
approaches the speed of light time slows down
however the observer, because he is within this
field, does not notice either. As the speed
of light approaches, it is noticed externally that
the object is moving farther away at a higher speed.
Internally, again it is not noticed. When the speed
of light is reached, time stops. If the observer
within the object was to look back at a clock that
he was watching as he approached the speed of light,
the hands would stand still. This is simple quantum
physics. Where it starts to become a little bit
convoluted is at the point where you exceed the
speed of light. Now an analogy was used where an
individual is at the speed of light,
the
speed of light being an absolute and it is an
absolute inside normal space, it fluctuates but the
speed of light is an absolute. If the individual was
to get up and watching the clock, walk backwards
away from the clock that is appearing to be
stationary, that individual would be traveling
faster than the speed of light but that is not so.
He is traveling at a normal walking pace that he
would be traveling in normal space because the
vessel, even though it has approached the speed of
light, inside it it is normal space. The person
would have to accelerate to the speed of light again
to be traveling at the speed of light but the object
that he is within is traveling at the speed of
light. Now, the equation E equals MC squared
is a mathematical equation that is correct in
essence. E equals energy or energy times mass times
the speed of light which means as you accelerate,
you need more energy which is taken from the mass.
So the more mass that you have, the faster and
closer you can approach the speed of light,
interesting. As you approach the speed of light, you
need more mass to turn into energy. In its current
formula, there is not enough mass within your galaxy
to achieve that speed of light. So traveling outside
normal space is how you travel faster than the speed
of light but you do not need to travel faster than
the speed of light outside of normal space. Okay, do
you understand Russ?
Russ: not a single word of it
but this does explain the movie "Contact"
a little better though.
Omal: okay. However, having reached
the point of singularity or the event horizon sorry,
okay you pass over the point of the event horizon.
You head into a thing called singularity which is
infinite, infinite smallness. The gravitational pull
becomes so intense that everything is compressed
into tiny, tiny unperceivable amounts. So therefore
the person withinside the object
traveling at the speed of light ceases to function,
ceases to exist. However, what remains escapes as
radiation back into the galaxy. Now, this has
been theorized, a gravitational black hole which is
what I’ve just described is the jump over the event
horizon and a singularity is a black hole.
As a black hole increases in mass,
it pulls in more matter and energy and more light.
As it becomes so massive, the gravitational pull
weakens. However, at the point of
singularity, the gravitational field is
just as intense. It is more like a steep-sided
hole as opposed to a gently sloping hole. You can
sit on the top of a gentle or a massive black hole
at the point of the event horizon and not be pulled
in. On a small black hole, which may be the size of
a marble but yet has the mass of your entire galaxy,
will have a far greater pull than a black hole that
has the mass of two galaxies, two large
galaxies might I add. This is because of the intense
nature of the pull of the black hole. Okay here
endeth the dissertation on...
Russ: quantum physics.
Omal: basic quantum physics.
Russ: basic quantum physics. I’ll put
that on the web. Okay so in "Contact" where she gets
dropped through that speed of light achieving thing,
she’s actually reaching a point of event horizon?
Omal: no, because there is no return
over the event horizon.
Russ: oh there isn’t?
Omal: no, having achieved the event
horizon, you are crushed out of existence.
Russ: ahhh.
Omal: also the formula E equals MC
squared states quite clearly that there is not
enough mass in your galaxy to do that. For the young
lady in "Contact" to travel the distance that she
supposedly did, she would have to travel outside of
normal space.
Russ: and theoretically she wasn’t.
Omal: that is their theory.
Russ: right but I guess she was,
she
was out of normal space for that time period she was
within the circling wheels.
Omal: correct. In your entertainment
"Star Trek"….
Russ: uh-huh.
Omal: they have the right idea,
warping space.
Russ: where you’re ignoring normal
space.
Omal: correct.
Russ: I see.
Omal: however the perception of stars
shooting by is a suggestion of traveling at the
speed or greater than the speed of light. As I’ve
just stated, that is not so.
Russ: actually you’d be closer to the
movie "Dune".
Omal: yes correct.
Russ: where they're actually…
Omal: folding…..
Russ: taking and folding
space and appearing on the point where they want to
go.
Omal: correct.
Russ: which still confuses me.
Omal: that is more closer to reality
than is the traveling at a greater speed than light,
that is impossible.
Russ: hmm, the folding of space?
Omal: folding of space, bending,
warping, whatever you wish to call it.
Russ: interesting.
Omal: when you do that, you travel
outside of normal space.
Russ: okay, hmm. So we’re approaching
anything like…..there’s no way for us to approach
the speed of light…..
Omal: no.
Russ: until we're able to actually
warp space.
Omal: correct.
Russ: okay.
Omal: and then you don’t need to
approach the speed of light.
Russ: hmm, I'll have to
go watch that movie "First
Contact" where Zefram, whatever his name is
(Zefram Cochrane) breaks the…..first makes warp
speed.
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: I forgot how they did that in
that.
Omal: I have not seen it, I can
speculate and tell you how to do it but
then….
Russ: yeah right.
Omal: I would be breaking my own
rules.
Russ: which wouldn't quite be kosher.
Omal: correct.
Russ: right.
Omal: but as just been stated, how do
I know that you are not the inventor of a device to
warp and bend space?
Russ: yeah good point.
Omal: or if the gentleman…..the older
gentleman that is normally here Skip, if he is not
the person that is destined to be the one.
Russ: yeah if you’re going to break
the news, wait until he gets here.
Omal: I don’t think he would
understand, he does not have the background on your
earth and he doesn’t have the access to the
memories.
Russ: right, interesting though. Okay,
well that explains a lot about that but.......
Omal: I think I might’ve bored the
young lady a little.
Russ: well that’s necessary sometimes
for the educational lessons to come through.
Omal: thank you.
Russ: I mean it is something that we
are working on achieving for the whole planet.
Omal: eventually yes.
Russ: eventually.
Omal: but it is a very basic
explanation on quantum physics.
Russ: okay.
Omal: if you wish for me to get more
technical, you might as well get up and wander off
as I would be getting down to mathematical
equations.
Russ: well we would’ve lost half the
audience on the webpage at that point anyway.
Omal: I think we might’ve lost half
already when I started talking about singularities
and event horizons and…..
Russ: yeah they're going to read this
point and go, "what?" But that’s all right, that’s
the whole point of doing it so some people can
understand and figure it out right away and say,
“that makes a lot of sense.”
Omal: uh-huh. I hope I have explained
it simply.
Russ: well for some people I’m sure it
was first grade. For me, a bit over my head.
Omal: I do apologize.
Russ: oh that’s all right, I expect
that.
Omal: have you been in on discussions
when Mark starts theorizing and speculating?
Russ: no, no not really. Luckily he
tries to avoid those when I’m around.
Omal: I have heard from Kiri that he
does get very, very deep.
Russ: I’ll take your word for it.
Omal: Kiri is whispering that he had a
very interesting discussion with a gentleman that he
works with that was nothing but numbers and figures
on a chalkboard.
Russ: well that’s another one that
would be over my head. I’m never good with numbers
and figures. Anyway, thank you for that lesson, it
was very educational.
Omal: you’re welcome.
Russ: who else is on tonight or what’s
up?
Omal: well I am free but
because of our guest or your guest to answer
questions. I think it was important that Tia did lay
down the ground rules of what could and what could
not be said.
Russ: well it’s important anytime we
have somebody new.
Omal: correct.
Russ: heck yeah. Well mostly I suppose
the one question I’ve really got an extra one would
be on her, she said that she feels like she’s been
abducted.
Omal: we would need to sit down and
discuss…..
Russ: okay.
Omal: with her on her experiences.
Russ: all right, maybe at another time
then?
Omal: uh-huh.
Russ: that will be good. And what’s
up on the base lately, any new excitement?
Omal: nothing major, as you know I do
not gossip.
Russ: that’s true, but you do talk
shop every once in a while.
Omal: every once in while yes. Put it
this way, I have been quite entertained recently.
Russ: oh, how so?
Omal: well the comings and goings of
dignitaries, visitors and the antics of youthful
exuberance.
Russ: ahh youthful exuberance, I know
that one real well.
Omal: no, not more painting things a
nice shade of blue.....
(speaking
of a prank where the Wookies
were given permission by Omal
to paint the Corner
Bar blue)
Russ: oh.
Omal: no more practical jokes.
Russ: ohhh.
Omal: or that I have been involved in.
Russ: well that certainly helped your
image up there I think.
Omal: it made me appear more
accessible.
Russ: correct.
Omal: which wasn’t planned.
Russ: no but it works out for the
better actually.
Omal: it was more planned to say that
yes, I do have a sense of humor, Omal does have a
practical joke side.
Russ: hmm, well that’s good.
Omal: I am even planning on taking a
short rest, a nap I believe you would call it.
Russ: you?
Omal: that is how busy I have been.
Russ: wow, that’s impressive and you
don’t even sleep.
Omal: I do sleep…..
Russ: ahh.
Omal: but I believe my last one was
several thousand of your years ago.
Russ: right, an overstatement I
might say. But that’s good, really that you have a
good, busy schedule and even with all the people you
have that help you, it still takes you that much
work to get everything done huh?
Omal: that is correct. Learning,
helping to learn and guiding and counseling and
organization is a full time, no rest job.
Russ: hmm.
Omal: it
leaves me very little time for moments of enjoyment
but then all things are enjoyment.
Russ: that’s true.
Omal: all matters that are handled are
there for enjoyment.
Russ: hmm, well if you can enjoy what
you do, that’s half the battle of living.
Omal: yes. Okay….
Russ: I’m short of questions
unfortunately.
Omal: ahhh
that is a pity, you did not plan.
Russ: well not really, I was kind of
playing it by ear.
Omal: winging it again.
Russ: again yes.
Omal: hmm, you know what happens when
wings get clipped?
Russ: I agree but it’s certainly nice
to have you back anyway.
Omal: thank you. Okay I will depart.
Russ: okay, I will ponder upon
questions for next week though.
Omal: okay.
(Tia helps make the transition
between speakers)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn) Okay
it’s getting close to the end of this side, you want
to check?
Russ: ohh about five minutes.
Tia: that’s what I guessed. What’s
that ticking sound?
Russ: that’s the tape.
Tia: ahh okay, ticking huh?
Russ: well it’s going through its
paces yeah.
Tia: okay. Okay, now where were we?
She left.
Russ: uh-huh, she stepped out for a
while.
Tia: ahhh.
Russ: she was….
Tia: getting a little bit blasted by
energy.
Russ: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: tends to happen a bit,
especially since we took the pyramid down.
Tia: yes it does doesn’t it?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: uh-huh, it gets a little intense
and she was getting a little bit
uncomfortable I think.
Russ: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh, a little confused.
Russ: well you’re certainly a
comfortable person to start with anyway.
Tia: thank you. Omal
can be a little bit intimidating, especially when he
gets on his basic 101, I don’t understand quantum
physics.
Russ: yeah well I sure don’t
understand quantum physics.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: it’s not one of the studies I’ve
ever
tried to really entertain as a serious study.
Tia: actually it looks like Kiri and
Omal are talking quantum physics.
Russ: really? Well they’d be the
perfect persons to talk about it.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: me it goes right over my head
and I’m stuck going huh?
Tia: I understand a few words and I
think they’re speaking serious.
Russ: oh boy.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: well it's going to be a while
before they break away.
Tia: may not even get Kiri.
Russ: nope.
Tia: which may be just as well as the
mood that Kiri’s in.
Russ: why?
Tia: well you know Kiri’s bent.
Russ: oh what'd you do this time?
Tia: I didn’t do anything, she’s in a
good mood.
Russ: oh she’s a good mood.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: oh that’s good.
Tia: okay, (says goodbye in
Durondedunn)
Russ: bye.
(Korton gets down to
business)
Korton: greetings and felicitations
Russ, how are you functioning?
Russ: quite well Korton, thank you.
Korton: okay let us proceed. As I have
stated in the past, communication and the necessary
importance of communicating well. I am to remind you
to be concise and clear, that is of importance, to
articulate exactly what you desire. This is becoming
more important as time progresses. The pronunciation
and annunciation of words to be understood clearly
and crisply is of importance, this cannot be
stressed enough. The underlying statements of what
is said and the manipulation and planning
constructed within word sentences and
the construction thereof is important. It is
important to remember words do mean things, this is
important. It is of important also to be patient
when communicating, to take the time and not talk
down to an individual regardless of how intelligent
or unintelligent an individual appears. There is no
such thing as stupid, stupid is a word. It implies
that somebody lacks intelligence, this is incorrect.
Everybody has intelligence just in different ways.
By stating that a person is not intelligent is
defeating the object of communicating with them.
When you talk down to them, they do not learn, they
do not comprehend, they do not understand, this is
wrong. It is important to communicate as always
stated, crisply, clearly, concisely and eloquently.
When dealing with individuals that have limited
vocabulary, it is necessary to plan to talk longer,
to articulate in different ways due to the fact that
a limited vocabulary means that an individual can be
more descriptive. By making a statement of a simple
phrase that something is……
SIDE
ONE ENDS
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SIDE TWO
(Korton gets back to
business.)
Korton:
…..is a quick way of explaining what convoluted is
if you understand what convoluted means. Assuming
that an individual does not know
what convoluted means, it becomes more beautiful in
the explanation. Convoluted meaning that a thing is
twisted, turns within itself and outside itself and
continues on in a linear line. That sounds so much
better than just saying the matter is convoluted.
Where an individual is of
equal or greater intelligence, then being able to
articulate quickly and concisely by using words that
mean much more than just the word. For
example again convoluted, it speeds up the
communication process but takes away some of the
beauty of the language. The language that you speak
is part of the beauty of communicating. Whether
it is Earth English, Sirian, Durondedunn, Earth
French, high Sirian, water Sirian or lowland Sirian,
it
is the beauty of how you articulate that is
important. Sometimes it is best to
communicate just to yourself to hear how beautiful
the language that you speak actually is. The
fluidity and the understanding of the words is
important but words spoken on their own can be just
as beautiful. If you take a large word, let us say
facetious and instead of saying facetious you say
the person was and you use a
descriptive terminology instead of the word
facetious. That is important because it shows the
beauty of the language and
the grasp that you have. In a matter where it is
necessary to be quick and clear and concise as I
have previously stated, then certainly use large
words that cover a wide variety of incidences.
Questions......
Russ: yes…….
Korton: when discussing questions and
answering questions, it is best to pause and wait
instead of jumping in before an individual is
appeared to have finished answering the question as
was just animated. That was done deliberately but it
was used as an explanation. Now you may ask a
question.
Russ: yes, people say you don’t have a
sense of humor and I'd like to just
basically disprove that.
Korton: okay.
Russ: as has just been pointed out.
Korton: okay.
Russ: with the question in other
words, that was rather humorous.
Korton: that was not an attempt at
humor.
Russ: I know.
Korton: that was done as an
explanation.
Russ: it comes off quite well though
in a way where it's easy to understand
and learn from because it was humorous.
Korton: if you so wish it to be
humorous then it is humorous, I do not see the humor
in it myself.
Russ: okay. Anyway,
now one of the problems that arises from this I’d
like to work with you a little bit is when you are
so concerned where conversation and
communication is so crucial that by saying the wrong
thing you could upset an entire process,
then
doesn’t the worry about saying the wrong thing
basically slow down and defeat the purpose you're
trying to get to because you’re so…..?
Korton: I said when it is appropriate,
I did not say that it is always so.
When
it is appropriate to be eloquent and quick in your
explanations, that is
normally when you are explaining something to a
person that you know and trust. In politics, as I
started off by saying, words do mean things. You
have to be cautious and plan accordingly. When
communicating with somebody in a political setup,
you have to weigh and think your words
very carefully. When I communicate, I pause, that is
a moment for me to think what am I going to say next.
How am I going to
articulate in a way that is easy to understand and
will not be overlooked or misunderstood or taken
incorrectly. You have to be very careful.
It is sometimes necessary to use long explanations
on a simple question because you have to elaborate
on what you mean and in elaborating and pausing at
the appropriate places, you have time to think and
group yourselves for a manipulative move in a
political scenario that is a way of benefiting
without causing problems. Next question.
Russ: okay, well one of the jobs that
I have at the computer store that I work at is
telling people on how to access the
Internet and their e-mail. When I’m
doing so, I often have to deal with people who have
no prior knowledge of computers and other people who
have vast amounts of knowledge of working with
computers. Your explanation helps me to work with
them on a little bit better scale but at the same
time in using this as a training tool, how can I
better utilize it?
Korton: by using analogies and
descriptions and thinking carefully so that the
individual you are communicating with will
understand in the best possible medium,
the
medium depends on the individual. As
you have pointed out, if it is a person that has
lots of experience with word processors or
computers, then you can use jargon. If an individual
has never had any serious experiences with a
computer or a word processor, then you have to be
more elaborate in your explanation and think things
through carefully and proceed carefully. After all,
one incorrect click of your arrow pointer could
throw away hours of hard work.
Russ: okay.
Korton: next question.
Russ: all right, when I was working or
when I will be working with people visually to teach
them how to use the Internet in the coming future
where I’m not just using words but I’m using
actions, how do I blend the actions and the words
together to make the message come through in the
clearest form possible?
Korton: well obviously you do not
stand totally stationary.
Russ: okay.
Korton:
first of all, it is important to lean in towards
them no matter how they may radiate an
odor.
Russ: okay.
Korton: by leaning back, you say, "I
do not like you, I do not trust you, I do not feel
comfortable with you." When you lean forward, you
are saying, "I accept you, I feel comfortable around
you." Secondly, eye contact, making
that direct eye contact and looking them directly in
the eyes when communicating with them. But it is
important also to remember that some people do have
a problem with making eye contact as they also have
problems with people invading their space. A gentle
touch on the shoulder as you are communicating with
them, for example, let us
say you have a young lady that wishes to access a
what did you call it? Communication
mail?
Russ: e-mail.
Course: e-mail. You’re standing behind
her looking over her shoulder, you put your hand on
her shoulder in a kind of soothing way. Not too
much, if she pulls away, you remove the hand. If she
stays like that as you are talking and pointing and
talking her through the action, you are maintaining
that friendly contact.
Russ: hmm, excellent.
Korton: you may ask a question.
Russ: oh, okay now then, how do I use
this same technique in my everyday life?
Korton: by the same method. It is a
general, basic situation, eye contact, physical
contact, move in closer.
Russ: hmm.
Korton: but is also important to
remember that there are people out there that will
not make eye contact, that do not like to be
touched, that do not like people moving close to
them.
Russ: right, you have to intuitively
feel that.
Korton: correct. If you start and they
pull away, you do not do it again. If you look and
they look away, then try occasionally a few
times more as they become more confident. If they
behave in certain ways, you do not do that behavior.
Russ: hmm excellent, thank you.
Korton: you are welcome, you may ask a
question.
Russ: okay in these coming talks and
conferences, working with the various channels that
I’m doing, with those people, I’m accepting them as
equals and talking to them as peers
correct?
Korton: correct.
Russ: okay, what about when I am
talked down to?
Korton: sorry, that is
two questions but I will answer.
Russ: ahh thank you.
Korton: when you are talked down to be
patient, be courteous, assume a stance of
friendship. If they’re talking down to you, be nice,
be approachable, be friendly. You will be guided in
what is right and what is wrong, you will be told or
pointed in a direction that will help you be most
beneficial. There will be times where if you are
talked down to you must inform the individual that
everybody is equal in your eyes regardless of how
unintelligent or intelligent they appear to be. It
is important when meeting an individual for the
first time by saying, "hello, my name is Russ, we
are all equals here when we discuss things, we are
here to benefit as a common good." And if they are
listening, they will hear the words, "we are all
equals here." If they talk down to you, you can
remind them gently. Do not say, "please don’t talk
down to me." That will cause problems but by
casually bringing it up in
conversation and making that all-important eye
contact, you are confirming the fact that you are an
equal and that everybody is an equal.
Russ: hmm, excellent.
Korton: so you see the importance of
A, being eloquent, B, making contact, C, maintain
that even keel. It is important to maintain a
neutrality. When emotions get into a situation, the
harm that can be done can be grossly detrimental.
Damage done may take a long time to repair. I am
sure that you can count many individuals where you
have got off on the wrong foot and will never know
their companionship, their friendship, their
comradeship because of getting off on that wrong
foot on the first meeting. Some of your species has
this terrible habit of giving one and one chance
only. There are times when that is appropriate,
there are times where that is not
appropriate. That is a matter for the individual
that is making that decision to decide however,
sticking to your guns is important. If you make a
decision that there is a second or third chance then
you offer that many chances. However, if an
individual decides that there is one and one chance
only, that should be left open to debate on the
premise of you all make mistakes, you all fall off
the path from time to time.
However, sweeping it under the carpet is
inappropriate. When saying, "this is your last
chance after many chances", it must be followed
through. An idle threat serves no purpose and if it
is repeated many, many times, it is an idle threat.
So it is necessary to address each situation in an
appropriate manner. You have to weigh on the
motivational capabilities of yourself and how you
will address that. So by laying down
a structure and laying out a format that is
approachable and communicative, it is important to
stick and address each case on a case-by-case point.
It is no good having a general rule of thumb for
every situation. Every situation is different, every
action is different so communicating as eloquently
and concisely as possible and laying out a
fieldwork, a groundwork that is necessary and
an objective that is necessary for a particular goal
and I am sure you are well aware of what I am
leaning to is important. Each matter must be
addressed to help remedy the overall communication
difficulty. It is important frequently to
re-iterate, it is also important to give compliments
and confirmation that an individual or individuals
are doing a good job, they
are progressing in a way that is desirable. When
addressing individuals, not an individual, it is
important to make them feel comfortable and at ease
so that the learning process and the discussion is
much easier. You may ask a question.
Russ: that’s all I have.
Korton: you are welcome.
Russ: thank you.
Korton: I will conclude by finishing
briefly. It has been an honor and a pleasure.
Russ: uh-huh.
(Tia's back to hand off to Kiri.)
(Tia says hi in
Dorondedunn)
Tia: and I believe that was an attempt
at humor.
Russ: it wasn’t?
Tia: it was.
Russ: I believe so too, a well-planned
attempt at humor if you ask me.
Tia: I thought it was amusing.
Russ: Karra thought it was hilarious.
Tia: his normal will finish briefly
and concisely is normally five minutes?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: hmm, a very deep thinking,
very……covered a wide lot of subjects
didn’t he?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: covered a lot of ground.
Russ: especially that last section.
Tia: uh-huh, I think he covered
three topics and three subjects in your mind?
Russ: uh-huh.
Tia: all of the same time?
Russ: yep.
Tia: all detailed?
Russ: oh yeah.
Tia: all very eloquent, all
case-by-case.
Russ: I had another question
but it would’ve taken the rest the tape to answer.
Tia: how much did he use?
Russ: quite a bit, we’re a little
under half way.
Tia: my, what was the last question?
Russ: oh, the last one was if someone
talks down to me in the conferences.
Tia: hmmm.
(Linda comes back
downstairs at that moment)
Russ: you have got
perfect timing.
Linda M: I do.
Russ: extremely wonderful.
Tia: just got through a very
convoluted….
Russ: you would.....
Tia: very convoluted,
very convoluted.
Russ: that was Korton and
boy, he got me going here.....
Tia: I
think the best way to describe Korton is a pompous
windbag at times.
Russ: (laughs) you’re so funny.
Tia: hey, I live on the edge.
Russ: yes you do.
Tia: uh-huh, feeling better?
Linda M: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh, did it taste
good?
Linda M: yeah I had a salad.
Tia: uh-huh, I also have a good sense
of smell. You put some of that dressing on there
correct?
Linda M: uh-huh.
Tia: uh-huh, I think that adding
a little bit of orange juice to that dressing would
give it a little bit more ommph.
Linda M: yeah that would be good.
Tia: uh-huh, give it a little bit of
zest. No, forget the orange, but that yellow thingy.
Russ: lemon juice?
Tia: yeah.
Russ: yeah.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: okay…
Tia: yeah that would give it a nice…..
Russ: want me to pause and
start some tea?
Tia: does his voice sound that bad?
Russ: it’s getting there.
Tia: okay, pause.
Russ: okay.
(the tape
resumes after being turned back on)
Tia: up here on the base, we have of
course the choice up here is alcohol or a herbal
recreation which comes in three different strains which
is basically kind of a flower, it’s probably about
yea big.
Linda M: uh-huh?
Tia: they come in three colors and
have three very distinct…..I’ll let the expert talk
about them.
Russ: good call.
Tia: uh-huh.
Russ: Kiri loves talking
about those and in fact it’s her favorite subject.
Linda M: flowers?
Russ: Kiri's yeah.
Tia: Kiri’s flowers.
Russ: we've already done
one section about her and the flowers so we
can’t really get too much of that one on
there.
Tia: she might give you more history
on them.
Russ: oh by the way, here’s a picture
of Karra.
(I
had bought a
graphic poster of a woman's face and unicorns I
had come across not quite by
accident)
Linda M: oh is that really her?
Russ: that's about as
close as I can get, down here anyway.
(Tia says goodbye in
Durondedunn)
Russ: bye Tia.
Linda M: bye.
(Kiri is on to talk flowers)
Russ: hi Kiri.
Kiri: yo, flowers.
Russ: Kiri this is Linda, Linda this
is Kiri…...
Kiri: yo.
Russ: the Kiri monster……
Linda M: hi.
Russ: better know her as.
Kiri: hey okay, Kiri monster, bite me.....whip
me.
Russ: maybe a little description of
yourself my dear.
Kiri: okay I’m about yea tall which is
how tall?
Russ: 6 foot six.
Kiri: I’m not quite that tall.
Russ: all right, 6 foot five.
Kiri: I’m not quite tall.
Russ: alright.
Kiri: I’m about.....I'm about
6
one
and a half.
Russ: oh.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: uh-huh. I am kind of......
Russ: seems taller.
Kiri: at the moment I take tablets
that changes the color of my hair. At the moment I
am a redhead, my natural color though is a brunette.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: okay, I have blue eyes just like
yours, I am fairly slim and I think the description
would be what, willowy?
Russ: yeah.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: some people use
willowy.
Kiri: that’s the word I heard used the
other day.
Russ: okay.
Linda M: very graceful you mean?
Kiri: yes. I am the daughter to the
president on our home planet of Sirius, I
am the little sister to Mme. ambassador.
I’m an engineer…..
Linda M: hmm.
Kiri: I also have the ability to
manipulate other people’s minds with my thought
processes which is very useful however, it is
covered by some very serious rules. The rules are
briefly, and these are just very, very brief, these
are the main ones. Never for personal gain, never
for personal pleasure, never, never for doing harm.
Those are the three main rules, there are lots of
other little ones. Never to interfere in a karmic
situation unless and there’s a lot of them that have
clauses, unless. Unless the person is doing harm or
unless you can see the Akashic records in history
and see that by interfering and interrupting etc.
etc. etc. etc. Okay, flowers, oh
first of all any questions?
Linda M: no, I want to hear more about
your flowers.
Kiri: oh flowers, the joy of my life,
especially the pink ones. I’ll cover the
pink ones last of all. Okay we have three varieties.
Pink as I’ve already stated, blue.
Now the blue ones are a depressant, a sedative and
what they do……..well first of all you ingest them by
just munching them and they’re filled of a
fluid inside and the fluid is part of the
narcotic effect.
Linda M: uh-hmm.
Kiri: what
you do is you bite off the head, drink the fluid.
Now if you drink just the fluid, you just get very,
very sleepy. If you eat the whole entire flower as
well as drinking the fluid, you get nice and mellow,
you can continue functioning but it takes the edges
off the world.
Linda M: hmm.
Kiri: the more that you eat,
the more mellower you get until you reach the point
where you fall asleep. When you wake up, you don’t
have the feeling that you need more, you don’t have
the terrible headaches, you don’t have the
depression, you don’t have the cravings, you just
wake up refreshed and get on with your
life. They are sometimes prescribed for people that
have sleeping disorders, for people that are
overactive, people that have anxiety, students use
them especially when they get overactive. The red
ones, these are fun.
Linda M: ahh.
Kiri: I don’t do them very often but I
do enjoy them occasionally. They are a…..what’s the
word Russ?
Russ: they have…..
Kiri: opposite of a sedative.
Russ: oh it would be a amphetamine,
no, not amphetamine…..
Kiri: they’re a pick-me-up.
Russ: yeah, close enough.
Kiri: uh-huh, that’s the best way to
describe them.
Linda M: narcotic.
Kiri: it’s the same process. I am
trying to think of……..what’s the opposite of a
depressant is a…..
Russ: stimulant.
Kiri: stimulant, okay stimulant,
stimulant, stimulant…opposite of a
depressant…stimulant……..okay it’s stored.
Okay, the stimulant effect is that when you eat the
red ones, you get hyperactive, you get energized,
you have incredible energy, you can stay awake for
long periods of time. The more that you eat the more
hyperactive you become until you reach a point where
your body says I can’t take anymore.
Linda M: doesn’t make you
sexually…..like you get sleep deprivation and
it makes you very, very sensitive?
Kiri: no uh-huh, not these…..
Linda M: it doesn’t do that for you?
Kiri: not these…..
Linda M: oh okay.
Kiri: not these. We’ll get to that in
a minute.
Linda M: sleep deprivation
does that.
Kiri: uh-huh but it doesn’t increase
the sensitivity of the body.
LindaM: uh-huh.
Kiri: it gets to
the point when you’ve eaten so many of them your
body can’t take anymore, it just shuts down boomph
that's it, you go out like a light. It decides your
body says, "okay I’ve had enough, I can’t take
anymore, I need to rest, I’m shutting down", boomph
that’s it. You can eat one and your body can say,
"uh-uh, I’ve had enough, I need to
rest" boomph that’s it, you don’t get the carry-on
effect of the one you just ingested.
Linda M: okay.
Kiri: okay my favorite ones, the pink
ones.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: the pink ones are a lot of fun
however they have a very short growing season of
just under four weeks.
Linda M: do you have to freeze them?
Kiri: you can’t freeze them.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: normally it’s in the spring of
the area that I grew up in. The pink
ones, they’re very fun. They are a sexual stimulant.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: very, very wonderful. It
increases the body’s sensitivity, it increases the
frequency that you can indulge in sexual activity….
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: it increases the stamina, it
increases the fluids, the lubricants and everything
so that prolonged sexual activity doesn’t become
uncomfortable like it can sometimes.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri:
it’s
very sensual, it makes everything very
fluid. It makes the feelings of warmth on the skin
just right, it increases the stamina, it increases
the frequency that you can…..
Russ: sensitivity.
Kiri: and sensitivity’s
very important, both physical sensitivity of the
skin, internal sensitivity of the erogenous areas,
sensitivity in behavior. You’re more passionate,
you’re more tender, makes you more willing to try
new things.
Linda M: hmm.
Kiri: it’s
a lot of fun, they’re great, I really, really do
enjoy them. I just wish that they had a longer
season. Now the reason we can’t freeze them is
because they’ve already been partly frozen. For them
to be at their peak, they need to have a frost on
top of them.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: so if there is a freezing
process, basically what you’re doing is you’re
breaking down the structure because the pink ones
are so delicate. The red and the blue ones are
fairly robust and you can freeze them however they
grow year-round so there’s no point in freezing
them. The pink ones are very, very delicate. I’m
going to need your help explaining this Russ. One
pink flower will go for the equivalent of three good
bottles of wine which would be the equivalent to…?
Russ: 60 to……well actually good
bottles of wine is about a $180.00.
Kiri: that’s for one flower.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: I have the rights to about a
quarter of an acre and I can can get close
to if it’s a good year…..actually it’s a bad year
but it’s a good year in the quantity……..I can get
close to 12 dozen out of that quarter
acre.
Linda M: hmmm.
Kiri: however, if there is a lot of
them produced, they’re not as intense and the
activity is not as intense. If there are a few
produced, they’re much more intense. This being the
fact that if it’s cold, they produce less plants. If
there's a lot of water, there’s more
flowers produced and of course a lot of water means
that it’s warmer so that there's more
flowers.
Linda M: hmm.
Kiri: this year was a bad year in the
flowers due to the fact that it was a bumper
harvest. We had more flowers this year than I can
recall in my 61 years.
Linda M: hmm, do you mean yourself?
Kiri: uh-huh, we live close to a 1,000
years.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: she’s in essence younger than
you and I.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: bite me.
(chuckles all around)
Kiri: it’s been pointed out that’s why
we appear to be more youthful, more fluid in our
movements. Tia is not of our species and
her life expectancy is about 200 to 300 years,
that’s if she takes care of herself.
Linda M: hmm.
Kiri: but do you have questions on the
flowers?
Linda M: I was wondering, are they
legal?
Kiri: yes.
Linda M: are they very beautiful, does it
look very pretty where you.....?
Kiri: yes it does, I come from the
high mountain areas which is probably a little bit
higher than your area. Your area is…..
Russ: 6,500 feet is about
where we're at right now.
Kiri: yeah I’m used to growing up at
about a quarter as high again which would be….
Russ: about 8,500.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: yeah, so down there where you
guys are is lowland for me. The best way to describe
me is I'm a high-altitude chick.
Linda M: (laughs) that’s cool.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Russ: yeah they come…..their home on
Sirius is very beautiful, it's a very lovely area in
the mountains.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Linda M: I would like that.
Kiri: it’s a lot of fun.
Linda M: why can’t we have a pretty
place like that?
Kiri: you do, it’s out there. It’s
not…..I wouldn’t call it home but it is beautiful.
Beautiful is what you think it is.
Linda M: yeah you got that right.
Kiri: uh-huh, somebody can look out
over a area full of different colored lights and go
that’s beautiful. And they can come up to somewhere
like you have down there and say, "ughh, look at all
that yellow stuff in the air." (The pollen from the
pines.) "God, it’s cold." "Oh, I don’t like that
smell" or, "I don’t like this, that’s not beautiful"
but yet they look on something that they see all
these lights……
Linda M: that's it, yeah.
Kiri: and it’s all perception.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: I personally would say that the
lights is beautiful to look at but not to live in.
Linda M: I agree.
Kiri: so it’s all a matter of
perception.
Linda M: yeah I don’t like living in
all those lights.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Linda M: it only attracts bugs.
Kiri: yeah, well bugs can be
beautiful.
Linda M: and it’s a drag to have to
pay rent.
Kiri: well we pay rent up here in
trade.
Linda M: uh-huh?
Kiri: yeah the fact that I do engineer work
is my trade.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: uh-huh, Tia does her political
analyst work for Hades Base, that’s her trade.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Kiri: Mark does his ground control,
Karra does her or used to do her healing. She's
now being supported by the government of Sirius.
Linda M: oh.
Kiri: uh-huh.
Linda M: that sounds really
interesting.
Russ: uh-huh, let me check our tape
space darling, not that I want to
rush you.
Kiri: trying to get rid of me huh?
Russ: not really but….
Kiri: I'll set Lyka on
you.
Russ: looks like we got about seven
minutes, maybe eight, maybe 10 at the very most.
Kiri: (sighs)
Russ: I know darling but Linda will be
back next week.
Linda M: bye.
Kiri: bye, I’m not talking to
you anymore.
Russ: oh thanks.
(Kiri apparently makes a gesture
unique to the earth)
(It's Tia's last speaker switch
to finish out the session)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, I’ll put on the next
speaker very quickly. Quick question, why does she
do that and what does it mean?
Russ: it’s an Italian gesture meaning
blank off.
Tia: oh, I’ll ask later.
(Tia says bye in Durondedunn)
(Karra gets
to fall back on her healing knowledge)
Karra: hello.
Russ: good evening Karra.
Karra: greetings.
Russ: and Karra I’d like you to meet
Linda…..
Karra: it is a pleasure to meet you
Linda.
Russ: this is Karra or lady ambassador
as we know her.
Linda M: hello.
Karra: greetings, I was just checking
the voice level, it sounds very raspy tonight.
Russ: yeah I’ve got some tea over
there but I don’t know if it helped any.
Karra: I think it was over exercised.
Russ: well Korton does do that to him.
Karra: yes, Korton and his
communication and lack of thought on…..yes I know it
is rip into Korton tonight. He should know better
and have requested a fluid break.
Russ: I know.
Karra: well, I will address that, rank
does have its privileges. Okay, I’m here to answer
questions. Let me first of all explain about myself
and add a few things. Apart from being appointed to
the job of ambassador, my main interest is healing,
healing not only of a physical nature or a spiritual
nature but of a psychological nature
as well. Russ has explained what I look like. I am a
little bit taller than my little sister but not
much, I am definitely a little bit more filled out.
I am 87 of your years which puts me at about your
age group in my life expectancy. Okay, let me answer
questions, preferably on a healing nature.
Russ: well she was talking about how
she thinks she’s got hepatitis C?
Linda M: yeah.
Karra: ohhh.
Russ: right and recommended procedures
for working with that one.
Karra: okay…..
Russ: I knew you’d want a good
challenge tonight and well, here’s a good challenge.
Karra: hmm yes, hepatitis C. First of
all you need to have that confirmed.
Linda M: I did have it
confirmed.
Karra: okay, okay you definitely
cannot drink.
Linda M: I stopped drinking five years
ago.
Karra: okay, you need to keep up on
the latest data on your planet, they are currently
working on a vaccine.
Linda M: good.
Karra: it takes....my estimate
probably within the next 2 to 5 years it should be
ready however, there are different strains of
hepatitis, A,B,C, D and E.
Linda M: I’ve got C.
Karra: yes, I’m just covering those to
say that there are other strains. Hepatitis A and B,
there
is treatment for it. Okay hepatitis C,
they are working on it. D, they are still
researching and learning and E is the real scary
one.
Linda M: that's....okay.
Karra: you know that there are many
different ways of transmitting hepatitis?
Linda M: yeah, the one I have is only
transmitted through blood.
Karra: uh-huh which is good.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: what you need to do is first of
all, probably start prescribing yourself vitamin C….
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: okay, eat healthy, eat
frequently but not large quantities. At the moment I
suggest that you say forget eating large…..not
eating large quantities, eat as you feel that you
need to.
Linda M: okay.
Karra: exercise, exercise is very
important. By keeping healthy and keeping
in shape is very important. Now, I know that
you haven’t been told about my pet peeve.
Linda M: no.
Karra: my pet peeve is nicotine.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: due to the fact that with the
setup that we now have, I feel the host
body around me and my pet peeve is
heightened because of what I feel in my chest that
I’m experiencing which isn’t my chest, it’s the
host’s chest but it feels as if I’m wearing it
within my body and I feel its heartbeat, I feel its
intestinal bubblings, I feel its fluidity in the
mouth, the hoarseness in the throat and the damage
done by the nicotine.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: at
the moment I would not concern yourself with
quitting that addiction as it is a replacement at
the moment. However, once that is addressed and
dealt with, to help in the process of fighting
hepatitis C, it is important to quit that habit
because the immune system needs to fight and
the fact that the immune system is carrying nicotine
which it is fighting is not good but, as I said we
can address at a later time. Exercise, I would
suggest organizing yourself a five-minute exercise
routine for a month period, just five minutes a day.
Whether it is walking from point A
to point B very fast, jogging, doing sit ups,
peddling a bicycle, running on the spot, lifting
weights but not too heavy weights and aerobic
exercises.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: okay at the end of a
month take a day off, kick back, relax, stick out
your tongue, stick your thumbs in your ears and make
silly noises. Starting the new month,
increase it to 10 minutes a day, just a 10 minute
basic workout. At that point you don’t need to
increase it anymore. On your planet they talk about
a 30 minute workout a day, that depends on the
individual. In your case, exercise
would be…..well you’re in fairly good shape anyway
but it will help strengthen the immune system. Fresh
fruit is very, very important in fighting this, very
important. Clean, fresh fruit. I
would strongly suggest that you check to make sure
the fruit is not from the following
places, Mexico, that’s a no-no. Chile, Argentina,
any of the countries south of your border.
Linda M: okay.
Kiri: okay, drinking water
from those places if you go and visit them, don’t.
Take
your own because your immune system, even
though you can fight off things like colds easy and
cuts and scratches and so on, it takes a little
longer. You have a nick that you did the other day
correct?
Linda M: a nick?
Karra: or a little bruise.
Linda M: no.
Russ: you mean the splinter
she got?
Linda M: I got splinters.
Karra: yes, from the carpentry, a nick
or a damage of the skin.
Russ: oh.
Karra: uh-huh okay, now you might have
noticed over the years that those cuts and scratches
take a little longer to heal.
Linda M: only because I wasn’t being
nourished, I noticed when I’m not feeding myself
good food…
Karra: that’s part of it but it is
important……you might want to carry a little medical
kit with yourself to clean the wounds. That helps to
clean up them and speed up the process.
Linda M: yeah I have some witch
hazel I could carry with me.
Karra: sorry?
Linda M: I have some witch hazel I
could carry with me.
Karra: well I was thinking things
like....you can’t use that can you? Okay, certain
antibiotic creams.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: little packages of them I
believe you can pick up, a thing of Band-Aids, just
simple, basic things like that. Witch hazel is…..
Linda M: antiseptic.
Karra: uh-huh, you want another useful
thing that you can carry?
Linda M: what’s that?
Karra: willow bark.
Linda M: willow bark okay.
Karra: uh-huh. What’s willow bark
Russ?
Russ: aspirin.
Karra: uh-huh, boil it up, drink the
juices. It taste revolting but it’s perfectly
natural. There are other……oh a nice little one that
you might enjoy, St. John’s wort.
Linda M: uh-huh.
Karra: nice little sedative if you
need to relax and unwind. Umm, no that’s not legal
but it does help to....and it’s not harmful. Hmm,
it's a pity that is illegal.
You’re not a member of any indigenous
tribes are you?
Linda M: no.
Karra: pity, can’t use that one
either. I’m trying to think of things to help you
relax a little.
Linda M: actually I'm a
little bit too relaxed lately.
Karra: being a little too relaxed is
useful at this time.
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