(Tia starts things off as ring mistress)
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn)
John: good evening.
John: how are you doing this evening?
Tia: I'm doing fine, how are you guys
John: I'm doing quite well.
Tia: hey stranger.
Tia: hey Skip.
Skip: good evening young lady.
Tia: thank you.
Skip: how are you tonight?
Tia: I'm doing fine,
I'm functioning within specified thingamabobbies.
John: thingamabobbies? Is that a
Tia: yeah, very technical,
tremendously technical, it means all sorts of
things. It covers a wide area, thingamabobbies.
John: and did you pick out my toy I
gave you purposely?
Tia: uh-huh, uh-huh....
John: uhh why?
Tia: because it's furry.
John: you're not going to eat it are
Tia: now would I?
John: yes, you'll eat anything that's
furry from what Mark told me. We better get serious
before Omal gets mad.
Tia: yes uh-huh, we better. Okay down
to business, I see we're missing the conductor.
John: ah yes, he's not feeling well.
Tia: yes I know, Karra's got an eye on
him at the moment. But where was I? Oh yes, astral
travel. I have my notes here, nice big pile of them.
Okay, now we have an astral traveler don't we?
John: uhh yes we do.
Tia: uh-huh, don't be afraid to talk,
I don't bite very often. Only people that annoy me.
John: you're the astral traveler here,
not me or Skip. She's referring to you.
Tia: Ryan, Ryan there.
John: and you are talking to a woman
or a female.
Tia: Ryan knows who Tia is, don't you?
Who I am. Okay, now astral travel, Mark tells me
that you can travel about a 500 mile radius right?
Tia: uh-huh, and that you've been
experimenting with increasing your abilities
Ryan: I believe so.
Tia: uh-huh okay now, do you have
questions before I get down to the technical stuff?
Tia: no okay, all right
now........okay let's skip that, let's go onto that.
Okay now then, your breathing technique, do you do
ten deep and ten shallow or do you just let yourself
Ryan: one of each.
Tia: okay so we'll work on increasing
your ability and we'll give you a framework to work
within that will enhance and expand your ability.
Okay now the other night you were discussing with
Mark if my memory is correct, because I was
listening, instead of doing 500 miles, going to
somewhere like the city where the Bears are? No the
Cubs. The Bears, Cubs? It's a city where a football
team is called the Bears?
John: talking about Chicago or
John: go ahead speak up because we're
recording this, we need this for future reference.
John: so speak up.
Ryan: I'll try.
Tia: yeah don't be shy, don't be shy.
I'm the shy one here, I used to run and hide didn't
Tia: uh-huh, used to have a hell of a
time getting me to channeling sessions with people I
didn't know. I used to talk all squeaky and funny,
still do from time to time. But yeah,
okay Mark suggested Chicago I think. Which is about
3,000 KM correct?
Skip: 1,500 miles.
Tia: yeah that's about 3,000 I think.
John: no that be less than 3,000 KM.
Tia: well I don't know, they're your
Skip: about 1,500 miles.
John: I'd say it would be more like
2,300 KM? Just off the top of my head.
Tia: uh-huh okay so that would be
instead of twice as far, that would be three times
as far as you would want to go and that would
stretch you a little bit too much I think. Okay now
what we suggest is going back to the breathing is
that you do 10 deep and 10 shallow and pace them
nice and gently so that you inhale a lot a lot of
oxygen on the first 10 and then you exhale not as
much oxygen on the 10 shallow. And then I assume
that you feel your body getting lighter and lighter
Tia: okay and then you just break free
and float up and head off correct?
Tia: okay now to increase your
stamina, what you might try is, do you drink coffee?
Tia: occasionally, some
kind of stimulant that will keep you more focused
because you have sort of like a haze around the
edges when you look?
Tia: uh-huh because that should
sharpen it but also exercising will help
to increase your stamina, not
only to your physical body but to your astral body
so being physically fit also helps with your astral
travel. You ski right?
Tia: right ski.
Tia: oh snowboard. Oh you're one of
those long hair types huh?
Ryan: not yet.
Tia: not yet but you're working on it.
Okay, now with the breathing technique and the
exercise, exercising......what you can do in the
meantime, is put yourself into a semi-trance state.
Do you know anything about yoga?
Tia: no. Okay now, there's
a position that yogis recommend......and hold on
whilst I sit Mark up to demonstrate.....he's wearing
a knee brace, that might make things entertaining.
Okay........okay so it's not going
to go all the way around but normally you'd bring
your leg underneath here. No it's not going to go
all the way. Now what you would do is put
your hands out so that they're resting on the
knees right? And just feel the energy flowing into
you right? And this will make you feel a little bit
lightheaded like you're about to astral travel. Now
what you're doing is you're charging your being with
energy coming in from around you so that you
go...(breaths in and out) inhale and then exhale.
And then you wait a bit and then inhale again and
exhale. And what this is doing is charging
your astral form with energy which will increase
your radius and range. It will also increase your
lung capacity which means that it would help with
the exercises as well. Do you have any questions at
(the phone rings and
the conversation has been edited out)
Tia: yes okay so by doing the
breathing routines, that will help increase the
energy flow within your being and charge your astral
body and increase your lung capacity to your
physical body. So by increasing the energy, you can
actually travel a further distance. Now have you got
any particular problems with astral traveling like
Tia: okay, now what we can do to help
you is if you pick an object right? Let's say the
bookcase there, you see the bookcase and keeping
your eyes open, what you do is without touching it
you imagine all the books disappearing off of there
and then you imagine whilst keeping your eyes open
and looking at the bookcase with the books on it you
imagine it being without books and then you imagine
what you want to put on there. Let's say you want to
put on little, tiny, miniature trees or little,
tiny, miniature buildings. You visualize those there
instead of seeing the books there and
that will help you to focus mentally and how it does
this is it's sharpening your mind to the perception
that you have when you astral travel. Or what you
can do as another helpful technique is instead of
traveling a great distance right? Is traveling into
the next room and putting an object, let's say a
book right? And a book with a picture on the front
and you go and have look at the picture and you keep
concentrating on that picture and then when you come
back right? You write down what you saw on the book
and then you go and check and this will help you
with your focus.
Tia: okay? Any questions? Come on you
must have one question. No?
Tia: hmm, okay let's proceed with the
next part. Okay now when you start to travel over
the 750 KM, is that correct?
Tia: 500 miles.
John: close enough.
Tia: yeah close enough, who wants to
argue? Yes Johnny? Nevermind....
John: I'm all done, we'll
Tia: okay, now over the 500 miles in
the circle that you do, what you can do is if you
have a map of the continental USA, you get one of
those things with points on it and a pencil and you
do a circle let's say that is 800 miles right? And
you pick a town and you travel to that town. Now the
first time that you do that it will be a strain.
Mark suggested doubling the distance, I suggest
doing it in little increments because that
way instead of stretching yourself hard, you stretch
yourself a little bit. And you pick a town let's say
it's somewhere in Montana? And you pick the town of
Missoula, is that correct? Missoula, Missoula?
John: Missoula Montana.
Tia: yeah that's the place. Missoula
right, you pick that town and you astral travel to
it. Now if my memory's correct, that is
the capital of that state right?
Tia: it's not?
Tia: okay Helena will do. They're
pretty close together anyway, or they look so on a
map, I never been to either of
them. You pick the capital right? You astral travel
to the capital. Now you don't need to go off and
look at pictures and stuff like Mark suggested
because I have confidence in your ability. I see it
in your aura that you're an astral traveler right?
And you travel to it, you see what you see and you
come back. Now you will be tired so if you want to
take a nap you're welcome to. Also I suggest is that
you keep a journal of your trips when you do the
stretching trips where you increase your ability.
Now how it helps you in your everyday life is it
gives you much more focus on what you want to do. It
gives you an objective and it affects everything
else that you do that you get more of an objective.......it
gives you somewhere to aim for and it makes your
life more focused that you can direct your energies
better, it increases your concentration level, it
increases your mental processing abilities so that
you can think and decide much quicker. Do you have
any questions now? No? Okay well I'm going to step
out for a few and I'm going to put the next person
in. And don't worry, I don't bite.
John: yes you do.
note: we now
have the advantage of
Google Maps to see an area before traveling there)
comes on to speak)
Omal: greetings and
Skip: good evening Omal.
John: good evening Omal.
Omal: greetings Skip, greetings Johnny and
please do an introduction.
Skip: oh Johnny, do you want introduce our
John: yes Omal, this is Ryan.
Omal: Ryan, it is a pleasure and
acquaintance to meet you. I have been informed by Tia
that you are a astral traveler.
John: yes that is correct. This man is shy
but he is very strong and very talented young man.
Omal: he is also very soft-spoken,
he talked to Tia I noticed that in his voice. If you
wish to go up and awake the sleeping one.
John: would you like me to do that?
Omal: if you could, I think he
wishes to be here for this channeling session.
John: yes, yes, meanwhile would you
encourage our young friend to speak up?
John: and you know you always
scared me but don't scare this little guy.
Omal: I scare you Johnny?
John: you have.
Omal: yes, it is like holding your brains
in a tweezer.
Skip: (laughs) Omal you'd better stop
John: excuse me sir? I'm going to go awake
our dead communicator.
Omal: okay. Now meta-concert,
meta-concert is a group of minds that work together
for a single purpose. It is set up in a organized form
where you have an executive who focuses and fires the
energy. Then you have a conductor who is the person
that collects and sends the energy to the executive.
Behind the conductor, you have the primary or
primaries if there is more than one. He is the person
that collects the energy from the secondaries and then
transmits it to the conductor who in turn transmits it
to the executive who uses the energy. I take it he is
John: yes sir, he's on his way down.
Omal: okay, I believe Karra was able to
roust the sleeping one.
John: yes, he woke up as soon as I let him
know you were here.
Omal: and finally the secondaries, they
are an energy source that send the energy to the
primary and from the primary so on up the line. Now
each part is very important. You can do without the
secondaries and primaries but the energy supply is not
as strong and the conductor and the executive kind of
act as both the primary and the secondary. They supply
much more of their own personal energy and is
therefore tiring for them. Now, as a secondary, there
are sources of energy other than your own surrounding
you. There is the earth energy which I believe you are
fully versed on Ryan, is that correct?
Ryan: what's that now?
Omal: earth energy.
Omal: it is the energy from all around
you, from the ground, from the birds, the trees, the
rocks. Sound a little bit like Yoda the hut or
is that just Yoda?
Russ: just Yoda.
Omal: oh you do have a voice do you not?
Omal: a little creaky there but it is
definitely a voice.
Russ: I'm just trying to get over
something here before it catches me.
Omal: I think it has caught you, how you
deal with it is up to you but back to the
meta-concert. Okay, we have candles lit I note.
John: yeah I've got a candle lit.
Omal: okay if you could bring it over and
place it where the executive can see it.
John: okay, is Skip going to be the
Omal: that's correct. Okay as our
conductor is a little bit on the woozy side...
John: would you like me to fulfill that
Omal: that is what I was going to suggest.
John: thank you, I knew that.
Omal: okay now unfortunately, because our
normal conductor is very woozy, he is not very
functional as a primary either.
Russ: I'll take secondary.
Omal: okay so you have secondary, so if
you could switch places with Ryan. Okay now Ryan, what
we wish you to do is you will feel Russ' energy coming
towards you, is to wait a few seconds and I will tell
you when to release and pass it on to Johnny. Now it
will come in a small fine stream and I believe you've
misplaced the piece of paper have you not?
Russ: no I've got it upstairs.
Omal: don't worry about it. What we want
you to do Ryan is to project at Johnny a thin stream
of energy and you will project that at Johnny and
Johnny will hold it until he starts himself to feel
ready to release it. I will be monitoring him from
here so that we will know when he is ready to release
and I will tell him to do so he does not release
prematurely or too late as a beginner conductor. Skip
you're fully versed in what you do as an executive
Skip: yes I am.
Skip: are we going to put it out tonight?
Omal: you want to try?
Russ: let's light it.
John: putting it out is easier then
Skip: how about we put it out?
John: I mean Omal, should I use
Omal: yes, if you will get the....
John: I've got them right here.
Omal: okay, if you'll give the male to
John: oh beauty. I was asking, I was
wondering about that.
Omal: uh-huh. Okay now, Ryan you are
now fully aware of what a meta-concert is correct?
Omal: okay, do you have any questions on
Omal: okay, now Russ, are you
fully.........no you're not fully coherent.
Russ: I'm there.
Omal: count from 10 down to one.
Russ: (counts down to one)
Omal: now, take a deep inhaling breath.
Hmm, you do have a little bit of a headache don't you?
Omal: okay now inhale again. Now exhale.
Okay do you have the energy crystal kicking around?
John: it's beneath your body..
John: oh, oh, excuse me,
Omal: that's the healing crystal.
John: that's the healing crystal, I'm
sorry. This one here, next to the wizard?
Omal: yes that's the one.
Russ: yeah that's the one.
Omal: okay we're going to use that as
Russ' energy source. It is something that is not
normally done and you will need to put that out on
the full moon to recharge it.
Omal: okay now, Russ are you ready?
Omal: ready to draw the energy out of the
Omal: okay on my mark, five, four, three,
two, one, send the energy to Ryan. Okay now stop
sending the energy to Ryan. Ryan, did you feel that?
Omal: okay, now again Russ on my mark,
five, four, three, two, one, send the energy to Ryan
Russ. Okay on my mark Ryan, five, four, three, two,
one, send the energy to Johnny. Okay on my mark
Johnny, three, two, one, send the energy to Skip. Skip
on my mark, three, two, one, fire..............okay
Russ, power down. Ryan, power down and relax. Skip,
power down, Johnny, power down. I didn't mean fall
over. It's a different experience, isn't it Johnny?
John: uhh yes, I haven't been in this
John: it felt good.
Omal: but very strange.
John: yes, yeah it's....I'm not accustomed
Omal: okay, now we'll take a quick break
whilst you gentlemen recharge and unwind. Skip you did
Skip: thank you.
Omal: the only one that seemed sure of
himself was Skip at the moment. Russ is too wiped out.
John: and what was my problem?
Omal: lack of experience. And Ryan you did
well too but I think the rigor mortis is setting in.
John: yeah these crystals are really
Skip: no they got hot.
John: oh yeah, yeah, yeah I mean.....
Russ: anyone want some tea real quick?
John: I've got the water on the grill,
you've just got turn it. Yeah, you just got to
turn it on, very full water.
Skip: question, why
did the crystal get hot in my hand?
Omal: because there was more energy
pumping through. You see, you're focusing hotter
energy, you are using a manifestation energy.
Skip: my hand starts sweating.
Omal: Mark's hands do it whenever he uses
Skip: yes they do.
Omal: and this one is certainly.......(the
Skip: uh-huh, we got it.
Omal: okay, you need to get a better
microphone stand. I believe your company has them do
they not? Skip?
Skip: my company? Are you talking to me
Omal: yes I am.
Omal: are you sure?
Skip: we make bearings.
Omal: I thought your other business?
Skip: oh yes, yes. Excuse me, yes you're correct.
Omal: were you not thinking of tripods
Skip: yes, you're correct. I'm sorry, my
mind was elsewhere okay?
Omal: and what is on your mind at the
Skip: trying to clear it.
Omal: ahh yes, I understand, say no more.
Skip: clear it of a bunch of problems that
Omal: I understand that you will soon have
one less problem.
Skip: maybe three less problems.
(Skip and John laugh out loud)
a good way to put that.
Skip: and just a possibility that
I might acquire two more.
Skip: a possibility, not......
Omal: what is better to lose three and to
Skip: yes, advantage?
Omal: certainly, it helps you spiritually
as well as physically.
Skip: yes and the lady we're talking about
Omal: I believe I have met her once.
Skip: yes, she's a very fine person, very
fine person. I have a personal problem of coping with
Omal: but it is part of your learning
Skip: yeah, true enough, true enough.
Omal: remember you have to establish a
karmic path for you on this planet.
(being as Skip was
informed he was transiting to Earth in this
lifetime from another planet for the first time)
Omal: Kiri is better equipped to explain
it in your terms, I would get all, what is the
term, Highbrowed? n explanation and start talking in
terms that only a psychiatrist would understand.
Skip: no, I'm with you all the way Omal
okay? I've been doing a lot of self-education here
over the last six, eight months.
Skip: and I'm learning a lot more than I
knew in the past.
Omal: yes about cause and effect on a
Skip: uh-huh right. And like
I said, I'm having a personal challenge of clearing
some of the past debris okay?
Omal: I have a message for Russ from Kiri,
bring out your dead, bring
out your dead.
Russ: I was fine earlier, I don't
know what happened.
Skip: I'm going to go use that little boys
Omal: okay and then when you get back we
would get ready to continue with the meta-concert and
we must stop Mark's body from bruising himself.
John: Omal meanwhile.......
John: is it appropriate to ask a question?
John: even...it's personal but
doesn't involve me directly.
John: but it involves me
John: because it involves a very close
friend of mine. Is it a good move on both of their
Omal: I cannot interfere due to the fact
that personal nature, personal questions and
interference are very frowned upon. If I say one thing
and it turns out to be the opposite,
then I'm causing a problem. An example of this is a
lady that was or is supposedly a psychic and she
advised a lady to get rid of her husband because he
was not going to live very long. This was
not the case and so therefore it was
ill-advised and caused a lot of problems in the
relationship. And we are not exactly forbidden, common
sense is used in our discretion but it is advised most
the time not to say, "do this or do that or this is
right or that is right."
Okay gentlemen, are you nice
John: yes, we're ready.
Omal: Ryan are you relaxed?
Omal: are you alive down there?
Russ: oh yeah, I'm fine.
Omal: are you sure? You do not need a
wooden box with a lid? About 6 1/2 feet long?
Skip: no not tonight.
Omal: okay, when you're ready Russ.
Omal: okay right, on my mark. Five, four,
three, two, one, send the energy to Ryan Russ. Five.......on
my mark Ryan, five, four, three, two, one, send the
energy to Johnny. Johnny on my mark, three, two, one,
send the energy to Skip. Skip on my mark, three, two,
one, fire..............okay Russ, on my
mark, three, two, one, disengage. Ryan, on my mark,
three, two, one, disengage. Skip on my mark, three,
two, one, cease-fire, Johnny relax.
Skip: we had it going.
John: yeah, it was much more focused this
Omal: uh-huh, that will come with
practice. A little bit dizzy are we not? I wanted to
see with my own eyes.
John: yeah, I feel a little lightheaded.
John: and the beam was definitely more
Omal: yes more tighter.
Skip: Omal I done something
this time I've never done before, I
concentrated from the primary all the way through to
Omal: okay that is good,
is your own little innovation. Sorry, I was going
to.....yes I will show off. Show you
what one mind can do on its own. (focuses his will on
the candle) ...............well?
Omal: you have to remember that I have had
many thousands of years of practice.
Skip: yeah. I got a lot of that overflow
Omal: that is something that the conductor
has to learn to regulate is the flow of energy.
Skip: yeah I got some of that overflow.
John: yeah well I'm kind of being
Skip: yeah right.
John: Omal, can I interject here without
interrupting you or being rude?
Omal: you wish to know about controlling
the energy flow correct?
John: well also I was going to ask about,
to do this meta-concert correctly, we do need this
kind energy here that Ryan and Skip install in this
Omal: correct. There is quite
a number of important factors that is necessary for
the group to work with that the energies must dovetail
together and you make a very good primary
Ryan. You have plenty of energy that is focused and
very well handled. You have a lot of potential. Russ
on the other hand.
Skip: he ain't feeling too swift.
Omal: Russ, can you do me a tremendous
Omal: okay, visualize a penny, now
Omal: do you not remember those Johnny?
Those lessons on manifesting pennies?
Omal: uh-huh, it is still going for Russ.
Russ: uh-huh. (groans again)
Omal: leave it, I was joking. You are in
no fit state to manifest.
Russ: we'll have Amber and
Dave here next week.
Omal: good, I believe we also have to work
on David's healing.
Russ: yes, he needs our help.
Omal: yes we will set that up with your
charming, mischievous wife. (Karra)
Russ: sounds good to me.
Skip: I'm cooling down now, I was soaking
wet there for a minute. I grabbed a hold of a young
lady one day to get rid of her headache, in 30 seconds
my shirt was soaking wet, she had that much energy.
Omal: do you have a question Russ?
Russ: I did and I don't, I don't know
where it went.
Omal: Ryan, any question that you
wish. You surely must have at least one question.
Russ: ask him about the thing with the
drums. Yeah, the snakes and all that. I can't answer
it, I'm sure he could.
Ryan: is it....
Russ: no, he's a perfect person to
Omal: actually I was about to suggest
Kiri as Kiri's closeness with her grandmother would
be much more useful in this circumstance.
Russ: oh okay.
Omal: Johnny do you have a
John: yes, how do I control and focus
my energy as......?
Omal: ah yes, as a conductor.
John: yes, exactly.
Omal: yes we were going to discuss
that were we not?
John: yes, it's very important to me.
Omal: okay yes because one of the
things as a conductor is, if Skip got overwhelmed
with the energy and stopped sending out the energy
to the flame, you would get what is known as a
flashback and your function is to stop the flashback
from taking out the rest of the concert, hence the
name conductor and the term meta-concert. So
unfortunately, the conductor has a very dangerous
role that if something goes wrong, it's his job to
stop the flashback from taking out the meta-concert.
John: okay now with my ignorance or
just lack of knowledge on the whole subject, I
assumed that I should put out as much energy as
possible and Skip being the executor, would be able
to handle and control and focus whatever I throw at
Omal: no not exactly, I should have
elaborated on the conductor role a little bit. What
you do is that you hold the energy and let it out in
a steady stream. A little bit larger than the
diagram that was drawn last week but not in a huge
amount like a river crashing on a beach of some
kind. It has to be controlled in a steady stream but
you needn't worry tonight that we would've inserted
ourselves into the meta-concert and that would've
saved the whole entire meta-concert and everybody
from any energy flashbacks. We would've used the
energy to probably extinguish the candle.
John: well naturally I
wouldn't want do anything to injure or interfere
with our knowledge here because all of us, obviously
the reason why we're here is because we seek
Omal: correct. Now the
best way to describe the conductor is like a fuse in
electrical circuit is you have Skip as the lights
and Ryan and Russ as the battery pack. And somewhere
in between the energy runs which is the wire I
believe you would call it.
Omal: and you're the
fuse. Now what happens if the battery sends out too
John: well the fuse will blow.
Omal: or if there is an energy
flashback from the light?
Skip: it'd still blow.
Omal: correct, the fuse blows
whichever way and your job is to regulate the energy
flow so that the light doesn't burn too brightly and
that the battery doesn't get drained too much. What
we're planning to do is to work up the stamina so
that you will have plenty of stamina and we will
rotate the primaries and the secondaries and the
conductor. We may occasionally try a different
executive to see how it works because if everybody
has experience in every other person's role, then if
necessary let us say we need a healer to have lots
of energy from a meta-concert, Russ would be the
(laughter all around)
Omal: Russ that penny please, we'll
have to do this scientifically. Umm yes okay,
actually it does leave us with a bit of a problem
but it would be well-trainable. Now on
the other hand if you were needing somebody to go in
as a, what would be the word?
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Omal continues his discussion on
meta-concert does not work with astral travel but
there are exceptions where an individual needs a lot
of energy to go to a particular location and you
would use a meta-concert to charge that individual
by setting up a primary, executive, conductor and
secondary. Not necessarily in that order, you would
set them up to fire a beam of energy off into space
in the direction that the astral traveler would be
heading. Let us say Washington DC,
you want to check up on the gentleman who is running
your country and the astral traveler let us say is
Ryan that does not have the range. Now how do you
increase somebody's range just for that one trip?
You would fire a laser-like beam in the
general direction and what Ryan would do would be to
ride the energy beam and that would increase his
range quite considerably and so therefore he would
be able to get there and to get back with the energy
that he'd been charged with but it would not be a
permanent growth. He may increase his ability by 50%
to 100% but it would not be a phenomenal growth of
400% as it would be from here to there. So that is
the only time that you would use a meta-concert for
an astral traveler. Let us say you had somebody that
had psychokinesis that could move objects or
somebody that can pick objects up.
You would stick them as the executive at that point
because they are the one that would be using their
mind to lift up objects. If you had a manifestor
which I believe Skip has a little bit of
manifestation, he would be be stuck as the
executive. However, you do not need to have a lot of
ability to be the executive, what you have to have
is a lot of focusing ability. So anybody, even
somebody that has very limited psychic abilities
could be used as an executive. Your young lady, your
lady with the drink problem. She would make a very
good executive because she can focus for long enough
I believe on one thing. Is that correct, she can
Russ: how about for shielding Omal, I
mean what would you focus on if you're the executive
and creating like a shield around a house let's say?
Omal: you would visualize it as a
shield, a bubble surrounding the building. Now we
will get on to shielding as I believe somebody is
having problems with their shielding. Is that
John: well not really problems but
Omal: in a minute Johnny. Okay, now
what is your current problem?
Ryan: with the shielding?
Ryan: when it goes......when it goes
Ryan: and it turns into something
Omal: yes, okay so you're having
difficulty focusing with your shielding. Okay, do
you have a pen and paper that you have access to?
Russ: here's a pen.
Omal: not right now, not right now.
What I'm suggesting is that you draw your shields,
how you see them. Draw a picture and every so often
look at the picture and remind yourself that that's
what they look like because you cannot see them
physically most of the time, maybe when you astral
travel you see them. Okay now also what you can do
is, this goes very nicely with Tia's breathing
routine, this will help you to charge your being as
she said. You can also use the energy to strengthen
your shielding. I believe it is not time now to get
into stacked shielding, it is necessary to learn the
basic principles of shielding and practice them. If
you wish we can demonstrate penetration of shields
so that you have a feeling where you can strengthen
your shields from. Do you wish us to do that?
Ryan: strengthen my shields?
Omal: yes so that we can probe
them and see where the weak points are.
Omal: or would it be better at another
time? Yes, I think it would be better at another
time. Okay that will be put on our agenda is
shielding work. It is a long time since we've done
that, isn't it Russ?
Russ: too long.
Omal: yes. Okay, Johnny, your
John: well, you answered part of my
question with what you were telling Ryan.
John: and I'm still working on my
shielding and manifesting it completely.
Omal: okay I suggest that when you are
within the pyramid....
with a seven foot base in the room)
to take a brief period of time and to use Tia's
method of charging your being with energy. This will
help quite a bit.
Skip: yes, I don't seem to have a
problem with my shields, once I was informed that I
was siphoning off other people's energy
Skip: I was shown and taught how to
build a shield, it has stayed there more or less.
Omal: well that comes from past
experiences where they were more commonly used then
on an earthbound existence.
Skip: oh okay, that's why it stayed
where it belongs.
Skip: and I don't seem to have any
problem with it, it just stays there.
Omal: that is correct, coming from a
place where shielding, mental shielding was used
frequently as well as actual physical shielding, you
have a deeper subconscious grasp of shielding then
probably everybody in the room including Mark put
together. A much greater understanding. Maybe you
are the one that is needed to teach shielding more
Skip: well it's possible.
John: Omal, would be beneficial for me
to discuss shielding and building techniques with
Omal: certainly, certainly, it would
be very beneficial for all of you including Mark to
sit and listen to Skip explain about shielding as
long as he can keep in contact with his subconscious
for a few. But maybe that would better at a later
time as I believe you have to work tomorrow correct?
Skip: that's correct.
Omal: yes okay, now to get everybody
in, I must depart.
Skip: okay, good night.
John: thank you Omal. Sorry for your
extra time tonight, we appreciate it.
John: see you next week.
Omal: yes I shall be here. Live long,
prosper, I'll be back.
(Tia returns once more)
John: that was a good one eh?
Skip: see the difference there?
John: oh yeah, uh-huh.
(Tia says hi in
Skip: hey there she is.
Tia: yo, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.
John: want a cup of tea?
Tia: oh that would be delightful but I
think that Kiri who will be on second from last
would appreciate it more.
John: oh so you don't want no tea?
Tia: I would dearly love a cup of tea.
When you get up here, I'll make you a cup of tea. You
like gunpowder tea?
John: I would love to try some
Tia: okay. And Ryan, when you make it
up here, I'll make you, that's an interesting treat
that you like, Coca-Cola?
Tia: that's interesting, what is that?
Skip: it's a soft, like what we call a
soft drink, carbonated....
Skip: with the.....
Tia: it has bubbles in it and it's
brown in color.
John: yeah and it's caffeine and sugar
Skip: originally it had cocoa leaves
Tia: cocoa leaves? They're addictive.
Skip: I know.
John: yeah, yeah.
Skip: yes they are.
John: yes but so is caffeine, so is
Tia: bad, bad, bad, bad.
John: well that's the way Coca-Cola
was originally designed and since that time the....
Skip: Coca-Cola. That's where they got
Tia: okay I'm going to put on the next
Skip: okay go ahead honey.
(Karra comes on to take questions)
Skip: good evening.
Karra: and how are you doing?
Skip: just great, how about you?
Karra: I'm doing fine thank you. And
you young man, I believe your name is Ryan correct?
Karra: I'm Karra, I'm a healer so
you'll have to excuse me if I sound soft-spoken and
I get carried away communicating with the other
healers present. It is a little bit like, how you
would say a union?
Skip: darling I got a question to ask
Skip: I have evidently progressed in
my healing ability to the point that I don't have to
ground myself out anymore.
Karra: that happens that it peaked out
into your shielding and your shielding is used
like....I'm trying to think of an engineering term
and Kiri is busy talking so she can't help me. It
Skip: am I grounded through my shield?
Karra: yes it's like some kind of...
Karra: exhaust pipe type thing.
Skip: I see, a ground conductor.
Karra: your shields bleed the energy
Skip: oh, all right, fine. Well that's
Karra: why is there a hotspot
appearing on Mark's foot?
Skip: that's great, well evidently
I've progressed to that point.
Karra: well that is good.
Skip: because it used to be when I
affected a healing on somebody else, I would either
get sick or get upset or whatever.
Karra: yes you would suffer their
Skip: yeah I....
Karra: I've a question, there was a
hotspot that developed on Mark's foot, what
Russ: probably near the heater?
be because it isn't on yet.
Karra: oh well never mind.
Russ: hey love, when I was talking to
Ryan, I seemed to see him through kind of a bright
glow. Was that actually seeing my shields then at
Russ: what happened? Subconsciously
Karra: yes subconsciously kicked in.
It is something that needs to be discussed between
you and Ryan. It is something that is not best
discussed at this time with a group of people. It is
between you two.
Karra: and I think Ryan knows knows
Russ: oh good, he can tell me all
Karra: yes but after the channeling
session in private.
Skip: yeah. But anyhow, that amazed me
that I don't pick up that.
Karra: that is because your filter
system, it is grounding out and Kiri's still
talking, she can't come in. But anyway, it is....
Skip: does that mean that my ability's
Karra: yes it will. It is the first
step to enhancing your ability that you will be able
to speed up the healing process on people quite
Skip: good because I got a lady that I
want to speed up the healing process on. A friend of
mine, a very good friend.
Karra: yes it's sometimes, that is an
Karra: yes you leak thoughts very
Skip: it's nice talking to you again.
Karra: thank you, yes it is nice
talking to you too. We didn't get to talk last time
much did we but...
Skip: no and I had to rush off the
time before that.
Karra: yes, yes.
Skip: and we just didn't get any
conversation in it all.
Karra: now Tia has been discussing
about organizing a psychic party.
Skip: a psychic party?
Karra: yeah, a sidekick party. Sorry,
play on words there. A psychic party.
Skip: now I got....
John: is that with Omal's permission?
Karra: yes we have full, full
Skip: oh okay all right.
John: okay, that's one thing that
confused me right away. Because.....
Skip: didn't Omal say something about
said that I had another ability and it slipped right
on past me.
Karra: hold on, I will ask him.
Karra: yes manifestation.
Russ: that's creating things.....
Skip: yeah, yeah I know the term, I
just...it just....I've never pursued it okay?
Russ: it's probably latent and you
haven't got it to operant status yet.
Skip: I've never pursued it.
Karra: well having the ability there
does help with the meta-concert yes and
as a healer I can't help you to tap into it. A
Russ: well I could.
Karra: Russ could, he's got coercive
Russ: well I've got manifestation too.
John: how about Mark?
Karra: Mark could as well, he's a
coercer that outshines all four of you with your
abilities I understand. Tia informs me that he
coerced you the other night Ryan.
Ryan: that what?
Karra: that Mark coerced you with a
cup of tea. You didn't want one but you decided that
you were going to have one anyway.
Karra: yes that was Mark using his
coercive ability. He thought, Tia says he thought
that it would make you more relaxed.
Ryan: yes it did.
Karra: okay, healing questions.
Skip: am I hit my limit of healing
Karra: no, no, you
never hit your limit, you do not have a limit. The
only thing that limits you is yourself.
Skip: because it's getting better and
Skip: and it's stronger.
John: as far as using the copper for
the arthritis and stuff, I've used my copper
bracelet since our last discussion on it and I found
out that Skip manufactures or is able to manufacture
John: and I believe they would be tools for
Karra: ummm.....you'd have to discuss
that with the meta-concert organizer Omal. For
healing certainly, for a healing meta-concert
certainly. With a group of healers together and
John: do you understand that our
meta-concert is composed of I think we've got more
healers or I don't know if we're out of balance? Or
if I'm confused on it. Can you clarify that for me?
Karra: certainly healing energy is
good for healing, that goes without saying but when
it comes to a meta-concert, energy, whether it is
healing energy, manifestation energy, psychokinesis
energy, coercive energy, it doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter because the person that is the
executive is the person focusing the energy and
using it. He is the one that transforms it from
coercive, whatever form of energy into what he's
focusing on. If he's focusing it on healing, then
certainly it enhances the healing because he doesn't
have to change it and it is done when he focuses it,
it changes automatically. If you had a group of
coercer's together, and they were trying to manifest
something, it would be exactly the same as having a
group of manifestors apart from the wattage would be
turned down just a tad
Skip: okay, okay. I gotcha.
John: yeah, thank you for clarifying
that. I was a little bit confused on that and you
did understand my question?
Karra: I just relayed it to Omal and
Omal relayed it straight back to me.
John: okay, thank you,
you for clarifying that.
Karra: you're welcome. That is one of
the advantages of having a telepathic link with
Russ: hey Karra, how are we going to
deal with David's knee next week?
Karra: okay what we will do is we will
use the heat technique. The hands heat and we will
heat it the same way as we started off working on
Mark's knee and Carrie's melanoma by using the heat.
And then we will assess the situation when we finish
using the heat and we will need a bowl of water to
rinse Mark's hands in because we have to be very
careful because when working on a knee that is
damaged with his knees, oh woe is me. He will be
John: to keep things simpler since I
do, I'd like to make sure the channeling sessions
are set up correctly.
John: what media of bowl, glass, metal
Karra: glass. You have a wood bowl?
John: well I'm asking what is correct,
what is the most beneficial?
Karra: do you have a wood bowl?
John: I don't think so. I know we've
got glass and metal.
Karra: glass will do.
Skip: do you need a wood bowl?
John: would wood work better? That is
part of my question.
Karra: that is why I said, do you have
a wood bowl?
Skip: I've got several of them at
Russ: ahhh wonderful.
Skip: I'll bring one up or send one
John: and how about a stone bowl?
Would that work?
Karra: it depends on what type of
healing is being done.
Skip: yeah, the stone has to be the
stone for what you are using it for.
Karra: yes that's correct. If you are
using, I believe you have a, yes you do have a
granite stone one don't you?
Skip: yes we do.
Karra: yes and Johnny has a granite
one as well. Is that correct?
Karra: okay yeah, Tia's been nosing
John: yeah she's nosy.
Karra: yes we know she's nosy. She has
a big one too.
Skip: be nice.
Karra: she doesn't have a big nose,
it's a very fine, dainty, little nose, a little
turned up at the tip. She's looking at me with
Russ: you've been watching the "Life
of Brian" there darling?
Karra: watch it big nose.
Karra: of course I watched the "Life
of Brian" with you. Okay now, a granite bowl as you
bring that up and Tia is talking about granite
bowls, is you would use that when you are dealing
with not so much bone ailments but ailments of the
internal organs. Let's say you have some liver
problem by whatever cause. You would use, you would
put the crystal in the water, this is a little bit
different and I'll explain why. By placing the
crystal and the water in a granite bowl, you're
infusing the energy from the tiny, little crystals
in the granite into the water and that in turn helps
to keep the crystal nice and cleansed. What you
would do is you would place the healing crystal, let
us say it is the big one underneath here, into the
granite bowl immersed totally in water, I don't
believe yours is big enough to immerse is it? Tia is
John: no mine's not big enough to
immerse the healing crystal that we're using.
Karra: okay let us say were using the
laser scalpel okay? That one would be fine.
John: would that be the scalpel that
you used on Oddball on the feline for the healing?
(one of the house
Karra: yes, that is correct, yes. Okay
you immerse that one in a bowl, in the granite bowl
right? And the energy would be sucked into the
crystal to use as an energy source. Now you would
use it until it started to feel as if it was running
out of power. You would then place back into the
water, then you would take it out after about 10
minutes and you would dry it with a cotton, not a
mixture of things, just pure cotton. You would dry
it with a cotton cloth and you would then continue
with the healing process until it started to run out
of energy again. Normally it doesn't go to a second
charging in the water. Occasionally, very
occasionally with serious forms of liver damage such
as cirrhosis and that is the advanced stages of
cirrhosis and it would only work as a delaying
action at that point. But you would probably go as
high as four or even five charges in the granite
water. Now a glass bowl of the other hand, just is a
retaining device for the water so it doesn't slop
all over the floor. And that is used basically so
that the light and the energy around can penetrate
with no problem at all because the granite acts as a
shield as well from other types of energy.
John: and how about using a
conventional stainless steel bowl which is readily
available in this dimension?
Karra: that is all right if you're
using sterilizing agents in the steel bowls.
John: but as far as healing, you would
not recommend it, am I correct?
Karra: no I wouldn't. I mean it is
okay for rinsing your hands in and drying them but
for actually immersing a crystal in there,
no. If you're using the hand methods of healing,
putting your hands on somebody and warming them up,
it doesn't matter what type of vessel you use to
hold the water in. Whether it's glass, stainless
steel, silver, gold, copper, bronze, brass, it
doesn't matter. Yes?
John: well I'm wondering why the
copper wouldn't work with.......since wearing
copper on your body and it interacts...
Karra: ahh I see, I understand,
I understand. When you put your hands in the water,
you're washing off the negative energy that you
Karra: it doesn't matter with copper.
Copper you would use that on a bone and illness such
as arthritis, helping to speed up a broken bone and
John: okay now we'll discuss this
more, thank you for your consideration on my
Karra: yes, okay you're welcome. Ryan,
you don't have any healing questions do you?
Ryan: not at the moment.
Karra: okay, oh you do have a voice.
You surprised me, everybody was saying that you've
been very quiet. I'm glad you proved them wrong.
We'll talk about things later dear.
Karra: yes I think Omal's guess was
correct. Okay, I will depart and I will put on the
boisterous hooligan one. Goodbye everybody.
John: goodbye, thank you. See you next
Skip: have a nice evening.
(Kiri is the next speaker for the
Skip: yeah and
your cup of tea is here too.
Kiri: yo dude.
Skip: right there darling.
Skip: right there.
dropped some on Mark's foot didn't you when you
John: ahh yeah I did....
Kiri: that's what the hot spot was.
John: that's what hot spot was.
Kiri: I knew it.
John: I knew what it was, I overheard
Mark or someone.....
John: Karra yeah saying something
Kiri: I better not play with that too
much, otherwise she'll scratch me.
John: oh oh, you look serious tonight.
Kiri: no, I'm from Hades actually but
Sirius is my home planet yes.
Skip: are you versed in manifestation?
Kiri: no I'm not.
Skip: okay, that's all I needed to
Kiri: uh-huh, I'm a coercer and I have
a very tiny amount of astral travel.
Kiri: and you make me look....I make
you look like you're a master class astral traveler
with my astral travel ability. I'm lucky if I can
get up to the surface from here. I'm lucky if I
could astral travel down to the other end your town,
that's how poor my astral travel is. But, you have a
question concerning drums I hear.
Kiri: okay, now what exactly is
Ryan: I believe there is something
like a spell or something put on me.
Kiri: okay and you need somebody to
remove that spell correct? Do you know who cast the
Ryan: I believe it's Dick.
Kiri: you don't want the spell to be
passed on to him, you want it to go back to the
person that is casting the spell correct?
Ryan: it shouldn't come around me.
Kiri: that's right, it should get sent
back from where it came. Now to protect yourself
against it, shielding certainly, that helps okay
but also what helps is a little mantra, "I am the
light, there is no other light." Can you remember
Kiri: okay you are the light, or I am
the light, there is no other light. And what this
does is it makes you very bright with energy. And if
it's a negative charge that's being sent at you,
which in this case it sounds like it is, it just
gets burned up and is dropped dead. As soon as you
hear the drums and the snakes or whatever, you go,
"I am the light, there is no other light, I am the
light, there is no other light." And you feel
yourself getting pumped up with energy and it will
fade away and go, "bye-bye". It won't go away
straightaway, it will slowly fade away. Do you have
any protections, any talismans?
Kiri: no okay, do you have a candle
handy for you?
Ryan: a what?
Kiri: a candle.
Kiri: okay what you can do is when the
drums start, is you can light up the candle and hold
it in your hands right? And then this will help you
to focus is repeat the mantra, "I am the light,
there is no other light". And you will feel the
energy from the candle coming into you and you will
be bright like the candle. Now if you get really
good at it, you will be able to actually make the
room glow with your energy. And when that happens
right? It is like putting a mirror up and that will
reflect the negative energy back. Now as for who
could be attacking you, what reason does this person
called Dick have to attack you on a spiritual level?
Ryan: I don't know, I really don't
Kiri: hmmm okay, so we'll put a
question mark over him. Is there anybody else that
might attack you?
Kiri: who's Cat?
Ryan: this girl.
Kiri: do you know if she's into
dabbling with spirits and so on?
Ryan: not too positive.
Kiri: would there be any way of
Ryan: I don't know.
Kiri: that might be worth looking
into. Why is she called Cat?
Ryan: I don't know.
Kiri: because knowing a little bit
about your society and culture, cats are normally
associated with spiritualism, magic and so on
Kiri: so that leaves me to suspect
that she might be into spiritualism of some kind.
Whether it is good or bad is indeterminable at this
time. Okay now, from a religious point of
view on this, the mantra, yes that
will help. Could you get of ahold of holy water?
Skip: Catholic Church?
Kiri: yeah that would work. Holy water
might help, in fact it should help. If you were to
have a little vial of it on a pendant and let let's
say let Dick see it right? Just sort of like you
know, it would be hanging there one day as a pendant
and say if he asks you why you have it,
you go, "oh it's holy water, I'm you know studying
certain religious procedures". And that will make
him go on the defensive which will hopefully if it
is Dick, back off. There are other natural elements
that help. Certain types of salt, I don't know what
the English word is for the type of salt that I
John: rock salt? You recognize it?
Kiri: that's earth salt?
John: yes rock salt, sea salt.
Kiri: I think that a combination would
might work better because that way you're dealing
with both earth energy and water energy.
John: they're both readily available
Kiri: yeah, that would be about a
50-50 combination. I know Mark uses earth salt for
various things. I know he uses it for various parts
of his life. Sea salt is Russ' domain if he hasn't
fallen asleep there.
Russ: oh no I'm wide awake.
Kiri: why were your eyes closed?
John: I'm partial to sea salt myself.
Russ: they're not.
Kiri: they were just now.
Russ: they were not.
Kiri: yes they were.
Russ: your eyes are practically closed
compared to mine.
(chuckles all around)
Kiri: Skip, were his eyes closed?
Russ: should I go back over the
conversation you've been talking about with you?
Russ: Mark you say uses some kind of
earth salt, I believe it's either rock, or no,
Johnny says would you mean rock salt? And you said I
believe..and then he said sea salt also
and you said yes a combination of those two would be
good, maybe 50-50.
Kiri: who does he think he is, Data?
Russ: I'm following along.
Kiri: okay good. Okay now where was I?
Oh yes, okay talismans. Certainly the holy water,
the earth salt and the water salt, good combination
and the mantra. Now these three things combined
together will not only give you something to focus
on for your shielding, but will also produce a
deterrent for people to use negative energies at
Russ: darling I have a
quick suggestion, when I used to study a bit of
the arts a long time ago.
Russ: one of the ways of protecting
your room against unwanted energies and influences
was you would put some sea salt or rock salt into
some water in a bowl.
Russ: it doesn't matter what kind it
is but I assume glass would probably be your better
Kiri: yes glass I believe would work.
Russ: and you would dissolve it so
that it was a heavy, salty water
kind of thing.
Russ: and then you would sprinkle that
around the room in a clockwise direction.
Kiri: well holy water works just as
Russ: yeah but you can't get enough of
it to sprinkle all the way around your room.
Kiri: no true, true. However.......
Russ: what I was saying is, you go
ahead and use this and you
sprinkle it all around your room just.....
Kiri: well there's actually an easier
way is you'd use a spray thingy, one of those spray
things that you have around your house.
Russ: yeah they're in the
toys, I suppose we can go that route.
Kiri: yes, it be.....
Russ: now back when I was doing this,
we are more into the old-style, we didn't get into
fancy plastics and stuff.
Kiri: yes, well you've got to remember
that I'm not used to earth ceremonies, I am from
Sirius. And let me quickly think a second here,
have to excuse the sound of whirring. That's me
activating Mark's mind whilst I rummage around for
stuff that I stored here. You're supposed to laugh.
John: yeah well I can hear the
clanking going on, I was listening to
the clanking going on in Mark's tiny brain.
Russ: I'm waiting for the penguins.
Kiri: I haven't come across those yet.
Okay, stored away here, I have some information that
I stored. We have timeshare you see the three of us,
Tia, Mark and myself, we have timeshare. It's a lot
of fun you know, get to mosey around in there and
find suitcases full of penguins and all sorts of
things. Okay now, back in the days before Tonar the
Evil, (from the Sirian Chronicles) way
these are only fragments. It's like your legends of
Kiri: yeah like mythology. Now it is
said, that what was used was black crystals right?
Which I think means coal and that was
ground-up and that was turned into a powder. Now
that was used as the attacking substance.
John: yeah gunpowder.
Kiri: no, no, no, no, no, not....
Skip: no there's two more chemicals.
Kiri: not, not as an explosive.
John: yeah, saltpeter and sulfur.
Kiri: no it wasn't an explosive.
Skip: potassium sulfate.
John: yeah potassium sulfate excuse
Kiri: when you two have finished.
Skip: sorry about that.
Kiri: it was not an explosive.
John: well excuse me for my
Kiri: okay, it was used as an attack
substance on a spiritual level being black and dark
and coming from deep within the ground it was
perceived as evil and it would be blown at the
person. Now the defense against it was a cleansing
with high mountain water from a sacred pool which
I was suppose would be like your holy water. The
symptoms from the black powder that's not explosive
but does burn, was that the person, their lungs
would get clogged and they would slowly fill up with
fluid and I think that the medical
term would be........hold on a second whilst
ask my big sister whose a know all......emphysema.
And it would clog up the lungs and the person would
basically drown in their own lungs and
it was all done frequently when the person slept and
it was considered magic. Okay now a good magic that
was used was the spring from a high mountain holy
place. Which is too far away for me to get to when I
go home. So I can't get any to bring here to send
down to you guys as much as I'd like to.
Skip: we're sitting on a holy, high
John: yeah I was going to say, we can
obtain our own..
Skip: high mountain spring....
John: high mountain holy water right
here, it's all around us.
Kiri: oh Indians of course.
Kiri: of course.
Skip: Lake Tahoe is a sacred.
John: this is a very sacred area and
we have much holy water in the high country.
Kiri: just over there right?
Kiri: there's a big puddle full of it.
Skip: yeah about 26 miles across.
Kiri: oh of course but it's not a
spring but it will do, it will do.
John: there's some other places that
surround this larger body of water that are smaller
and just as holy.
Kiri: okay this will help you Ryan,
this will help you.
Skip: but this is a sacred lake.
Kiri: it's a sacred Indian....do
you use Indian magic? Or know anything about Indian
John: I don't like that term Indian, I
use Native American.
Kiri: Native American sorry.
John: and I'd prefer you...
Kiri: yes you had that argument was
Tia last time.
John: Native American.
Kiri: do you believe in Native
John: yes, very strongly.
Kiri: since when are you guys been
named Ryan huh? Ryan, do you use Native Indian
Ryan: why are you guys laughing?
Kiri: because they keep on
interrupting and I said your name twice and they've
interrupted both times.
Skip: sorry about that.
John: I apologize.
Kiri: thank you.
Kiri: you do, okay. You need holy,
Native American water right? And what I suggest is
that you get a bucket, you go down to the lake
because it's classified as holy water to the Native
Americans and bring it back to your shower, stand in
the shower and dump it all of you. That will cleanse
you, it'll be cold but it will be worth it because
it will cleanse all the negative energy that you've
picked up. And that will purify your body so that
you will be pure so that the
attacking party will have a much greater time
causing you any harm. You may hear the drums, you
may hear the snakes but they can't touch you now
once to do that. And thank you for your help with
pointing out where there is a holy place.
Skip: that's quite all right.
Kiri: uh-huh, it's very similar to a
Kiri: and that will
help you tremendously. Is it all right to go and
collect buckets of water from the holy place?
Skip: yes, yes, yes. It's
permissible because we drink it.
Kiri: oh okay, you drink it?
Skip: it's plumbed into our water
Kiri: you're kidding.
Kiri: take a cold shower, just a quick
one? That would make it easier still.
Skip: no wait a minute, wait a minute.
Kiri: does it come through copper or
Skip: it comes from the lake but it's
also running through a purification...
Kiri: no that won't work.
Skip: system and it's got chlorine
added to it.
Kiri: definitely won't work.
Skip: and fluoride so........
Kiri: definitely won't work,
Skip: don't do that, just get it
straight from the lake.
Kiri: yeah that will work, that will
purify your body and you will be cleansed of any
negative energy that is clinging to you and
it will create a flow into your aura being a holy
water, it will leak into your aura as I said and it
will strengthen it and it will help your shielding.
you're being attacked by a negative force,
you're using a positive energy that is a very
strong, powerful energy.
Skip: sweetheart, I'm going to have to
head down the hill.
Kiri: yeah I'm an have to put on the
second, I'll have to put on the ring mistress as
we've got to put another person on. But if you want
to pause the tape whilst we wish you ado?
Skip: yeah, I've got to head down the
Kiri: ado, ado.
Skip: 5 AM comes awful early.
Kiri: 5 AM, what's that?
Skip: that's time in our......
Kiri: oh time, earth time.
Skip: in our dimension yeah.
Kiri: earth time. That's
the time I get up as well you know? I run 5 miles,
go skiing, I'm going to be competing this year.
(Tia returns to make the
John: ahh yeah.
Tia: okay hello, I'm
Russ: hey Tia.
yo, yo. Any questions before I put on the last
Russ: thanks for watching my kids
while I was skiing.
Russ: very nice.
(Lyka takes over speaking from Tia and
finishes up the night)
Russ: greetings Lyka.
Russ: how are you doing?
Russ: good Lyka, this is Ryan. I don't
think you've met Johnny either.
John: yes Lyka and I have met in the
Lyka: yes, hello.
John: hi Lyka, thank you for coming
again, it's been a while since we've talked.
Lyka: yes I'm on dailies now.
Russ: well Lyka, I had a question for
you and that is, Kiri wanted me to ask you about the
horrors of war.
Lyka: you don't want to know.
Russ: I know but it's necessary for me
Lyka: horrors of war......
Lyka: seeing your friends die.....
Lyka: the smell of blood, the smell of urine,
excrement. Your hands shaking, anger, somebody
coming at you and you've got to kill them or else
they're going to kill you. But I thought we had more
important things to discuss?
Russ: yeah well it's one of the things
I had to get cleared out on.
Lyka: it's horrible.
Russ: thank you.
John: yeah, Russ' question confused
me. I thought that all that was pretty much
Russ: no I've never experienced it,
don't know anything about it and don't know if I
want to, I'm pretty sure I don't but
it's one of things I'm going to have to face in the
future and I'd rather know about it...
Lyka: yes, when you have somebody
standing next to you, one of your squad mates and
there's an explosion right next you and you turn
around and she's not there anymore and you're
covered in bits of red and white and brown, she's
always with you then. Even though she's not there
Russ: well it was one of the things
that in the future........
THE TAPE ENDS