(A bit unusual, but it is Korton
who gets the session started)
Russ: all right.
Korton: okay. It was a nice idea but did not
Russ: yes. How is the seat, more comfortable?
Korton: yes, more comfortable.
Russ: ahh, good.
Korton: okay, now discussing tonight's events, we
have first of all a few other people here than
normal. They will be speaking in turn. Now, down to
Korton: oh dear.
(Russ breaks out in laughter)
Korton: first of all, what would possess this group
of thirty-five individuals, was it? To mess around
with a vortex that they claimed needed opening when
it was fine and functioning within parameters due to
new environmental factors.
Russ: this would be Atlantis I take it?
Korton: correct. What would possess them to do
something so assinine?
Russ: I believe they're being led by some similar
Korton: hmm. More mischievous by the sounds of it or
not possessing enough enlightenment. It sounds more
along the lines of they are novices at this new line
of work and they wish to make themselves appear more
than they are which is fine as long as you do not
interfere until you have learned enough. It sounds
more like a group of individuals that have passed on
into a new level of existence still behaving as if
they have this flesh and bone substance. That is
third dimensional, not fifth or sixth or seventh
dimension, they're behaving very much with conceit
that you would expect from somebody of the third
dimension saying, "okay, I want to be immortalized,
let's build myself a temple that people will
remember me by".
Russ: yeah, it certainly sounds like an ego on the
way up to becoming God right here.
Korton: that is what they wish. After all, did they
not say a new world order?
Russ: ahh, yeah.
Korton: we do not wish to create a new world order.
We wish you to evolve at your own pace. Accelerating
the evolution of a race is harmful because you do
not learn from that. That was proved in Atlantis
with the interference of various parties between
Cro-Magnon and modern man and look what happened
Korton: uh-huh and all your problems and
Korton: admittedly, the forced evolution means that
you have not learned sufficiently and this is what
these individuals are trying to create and have not
learned that a forced evolution does not work.
Russ: so in another words, the pyramids in Atlantis
were designed under the same auspices of what you're
looking at here.
Korton: basically yes, but there are many different
factors which have to be taken into consideration.
Russ: right. Well for one, they're not going to be
Russ: they're going to be receiving information and
power from the sounds of it here.
Korton: yes, does that not sound flawed to you?
Russ: yeah. I mean when I look at what they're
calling the emitter being the Crab Nebula, Pleiades,
Hercules and some things I don't have time for right
now, it's like what the heck is being emitted from
Korton: sources of information which are advanced
but are tainted by the emotions of recently, as they
would say, ascended individuals.......
Korton: but still possess and think in a third
dimensional way. To achieve the unity that they are
looking for, you have to first of all stop thinking
third dimensional level.
Constructing temples is fine if you want to be
immortalized for a time but if you want true unity,
then you proceed with what you have at hand, you do
not need to construct such things. We are not saying
do not construct this pyramid that they wish to
construct, but we're saying first of all look at the
motives of other groups concerned.
Russ: well, looking at the pyramid at Giza, I mean
isn't this merely a redundant example of what's
already taken place on third dimension?
Russ: so why not build this thing on fifth dimension
if you really want to get busy?
Korton: uh-huh. It is because these individuals are
still thinking in a
third dimensional way.
Russ: hmm, sounds a lot like that.
Korton: yes, it does, doesn't it?
Russ: well what the heck are they opening up
vortexes in Atlantis for?
Korton: that is something that we cannot figure out
that they would be so stupid to mess around with
something that they do not possess the intelligence
to work with. The intelligence to using that would
realize that it would be unnecessary and unwise at
present with the technology available at hand to
mess around with that.
Russ: well theoretically they might not have opened
it. I will have to find this book out and see what
kind of experiences they had out of this.
Russ: "Sacred Journey to Atlantis?"
Russ: this should be good.
Korton: presumably, it will say that they did open a
Russ: presumably, yeah.
Korton: but how can you open a vortex that already
Russ: by going to one that's already open and
getting its energy and thinking that it's yours.
Russ: that's a bit egotistical.
Korton: very. We're not knocking the young lady
Korton: but it sounds like she has been led up the
proverbial garden path.
Korton: and these individuals that claim to be
enlightened on a higher dimension need a severe
Russ: I don't know, ascended Masters who talk to her
on a computer just figures a little weird to me.
Korton: hmm, yes.
Russ: I mean, this is a wee bit more
person-to-person but on your computer?
Russ: there's room for error there if you ask me.
Korton: yes. Because of the speed of the silicon
chips and the electrical impulses.
Russ: right and going from brain to hand to
Russ: that alone is going to cause interference.
Russ: oh boy.
Korton: yes exactly, oh boy.
Russ: okay, who is this Kuthumi fellow? Have you
ever heard of this guy?
Korton: yes, we have heard of him and he is with
good intent. He has wisdom but, he has the problem
of being recently ascended and thinking in a third
Russ: hmm. Well, yeah, looks like what? His last
life was yeah, as Kuthumi. Before that, John the
Beloved and so on and so on.
Korton: Pythagoras I believe.
Russ: Pythagoras, right, yeah.
Russ: so he's still kind of involved with those
things that happened on this third dimensional
Korton: yes. For somebody that still hangs around
their home planet having achieved a new level of
existence, well what does that suggest?
Russ: that you still got a bunch of karma you're
trying to work out.
Russ: hmm, bad way to work it out by using people
like this for questionable goals but........
Korton: no, not questionable. There is good intent
to get the human mind to work together but, they
forget many factors. Human nature, human greed, the
environmental factors, astronomical factors.
Russ: well they're talking about having
it.......well get to that number while forceful
Russ: I mean they're expecting weird things.
Korton: they will be very disappointed.
Russ: now they're looking at having the person who
built Solomon's Temple and the Great Pyramid assist
them on the architecture of this.
Russ: well, that should be interesting I think.
Korton: yes, it should be, shouldn't it?
Russ: well if they track him down, I'll be getting a
good laugh here.
Russ: okay now, according to them, below this
Russ: they're looking at having these columns
connected up to these computer centers.......
Russ: that are set up to receive information from
ships down to an earth based level.
Russ: why does that sound wrong to me?
Korton: because it is already happening.
Korton: how does NASA receive information? You don't
need to build a pyramid for that. You can get a
simple copper dish and receive information from
spaceships, it's quite simple.
Russ: well how come we're not doing it now?
Korton: because it is an obsolete technology.
Korton: it is all fine and dandy. Basically what
they're making is a receiver that uses telemetry to
track the tracking.
Russ: oh. Yeah, we got that already.
Russ: okay, well the obsidian contains electrolytic
Russ: that's supposed to regulate the energy levels
of this thing.
Russ: does that sound like it's workable for you?
Korton: yes, it is workable.
Russ: and using a crystal chamber?
Russ: to work through those same energies.
Korton: correct. Where are they going to get the
Russ: right. Typically from what they say with the
ley lines and the grid lines....
Russ: being perfectly aligned like a typical
Russ: so I guess that's where they're getting the
Russ: wait a minute, that doesn't work.
Russ: because they're trying......
Korton: because one messes up the other.
Russ: right, plus they're drawing it down......
Russ: that means they're not pulling up from the
earth at all.
Russ: now what they're talking about is trying to
set up something that's going to stop the shifting
of the earth axis.
Korton: uh-huh. If anything, it will aggravate it.
Russ: yeah. We're talking southern Colorado. If I'm
not mistaken, that's not exactly on the other side
of the world from the Great Pyramid.
Korton: no, that is the reason why we are concerned
is that it will aggravate things more.
Russ: then what the heck are they doing this for?
Nevermind, I don't want to get upset about this.
Korton: no, don't. There is one word of wisdom that
Russ: when was that?
Korton: about keeping calm.
Russ: yeah, that's for sure.
Korton: it is unfortunate that the karma of a few
can affect many.
Russ: well that's if they can get this thing built.
We're looking at a structure some 497.64 feet
Russ: with a six sided wall around it.
Russ: I mean we have enough trouble with our
national budget much less trying to get something
like this built.
Korton: and with what they have in mind? Do you
know, and the channeler is aware of this, what they
would need to construct this?
Russ: as far as financial terms?
Korton: no, the materials.
Russ: the materials? Well just to start with the
twelve foot sides of the capstone alone coming from
Russ: Jericho. You're looking at an immense cost in
just building materials.
Russ: much less the crystal chamber and gold plated
Russ: I mean, the gold plated ceiling has nothing to
do with the energies. It's merely an example of
Korton: yes, to his God.
Korton: and who is God?
Russ: it sounds like the sixteen Chapel practically.
Korton: uh-huh, sixteen?
Korton: yes, get your pronunciation correct.
Russ: okay. Now then, they're dealing with two stars
Russ: which will help unite the planet also. Why not
Korton: because they are dealing with third
dimensional beings basically. That's all they are,
they have ascended to another dimension but still
have the principles and knowledge of an old science.
Russ: yeah, I noticed there is a lot of threes
floating around this whole mess that we are talking
Russ: I mean, good Lord, trines in every position
that they've got. That's kind of a big clue right
We're supposed to be setting this to transition from
3rd to 5th?
Russ: and yet they're doing all in threes?
Russ: it doesn't make sense.
Korton: because they're still laboring under the
misapprehension of the sacred numbers. The sacred
numbers are fine and dandy when you're messing
around on your own dimension but once you proceed
into another dimension, then there is a new law of
physics to learn. The fourth dimension is unusable
except for in traveling great distances. Because,
what is the fourth dimension?
Korton: and? They're on about ascending into the
freedom of the fifth dimension which is?
Korton: correct. So, they have a problem there.
Korton: it's not the fifth dimension you're aiming
for. The fifth dimension is a stepping stone into
other dimensions. From one to another, back to the
third or onto the sixth, it depends on where you
wish to go.
Russ: right. Well now what is this about Telluric
Russ: what the heck is a Telluric current?
Korton: that is a current which runs through the
cosmos that can be affected by the gravitational
field of a planet and be focused by collection on a
Russ: are there any examples of that here on earth
like say vortexes or something?
Korton: hmm, vortexes is a very unfocused form of
Russ: what would be a focused example?
Korton: a portal.
Russ: like the Great Pyramid maybe?
Korton: uh-huh. You focus it and you create the
portal from one place to another.
Russ: that keys into a lot of things then.
Russ: so, where would these folks be trying to focus
all these Telluric
currents on this spot in
Korton: that would act as a gateway, a portal to
Russ: what are they trying to establish a portal
Korton: I don't know.
Russ: sounds kind of funky to me.
Korton: yes, it sounds very suspicious.
Russ: very suspicious. And here we are, these same Telluric currents
are supposed to help establish a electromagnetic
Russ: that will keep away those elements wishing to,
how do they put it? Bring down this achievement.
Korton: yes. They are trying to create a defense
shield against other groups. They appear to be more
militaristic than certain organizations and various
sectors throughout this galaxy.
Russ: or they're expecting military intervention.
Korton: which means that they are more militaristic.
Russ: right. For example, what happens if suddenly
this thing does start aggravating the Earth's
polarity and someone tries to stop it, they run into
a force field?
Russ: and it's too late.
Korton: correct. Well, we will now hand over to
someone who has some very important things to say on
Russ: okay, great. Thank you Korton.
(Ashtar honors us with some
time from his busy schedule)
Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.
Russ: greetings Ashtar.
Ashtar: yes, indeed.
Russ: I thought you might be interested in this
Ashtar: okay, first of all, let's get your questions
out of the way before I give my dissertation on this
current development and situation.
Russ: okay, speaking on this current development,
Mark's coming up with the fact that they can't match
to these star systems they're trying to match to.
Russ: so even if they build this, they're still
going to run into problems once they get it built.
Russ: so their information is being flawed then.
Ashtar: I believe my esteemed colleague said that
these are third dimensional beings with the
capability of being in seventh or recently ascended
Ashtar: however, these star systems that they talk
about can be aligned at particular times of the
Ashtar: but, by using three on each side serve a
purpose which yet
eludes me, this cannot work all the time.
Ashtar: you cannot have all three aligned at the
same time on every side of the pyramid. When that
happens, and it could happen, it will happen
sometime down in the future, the alignment of all of
these on the correct sides of the pyramid which will
be sometime within the next couple thousand years.
Russ: well could this all be one big smokescreen
then to establish a purpose that is as yet unknown?
Ashtar: quite possibly.
Ashtar: we will take steps to see that this does not
happen, that there is no intervention of a recently
ascended being into your natural evolution of your
Russ: good. Yeah, it's working out to be that way.
Okay, well that was the main question I had anyway.
I know time is short so I'll let you....
Ashtar: okay. Let me marshal my thoughts.
Ashtar: now, concerning these sacred numbers. Three
being the number and 12 being the number.
Ashtar: doesn't it sound as if these individuals are
still very much more than people realize three
dimensional? Having recently ascended to the
seventh, they behave in such a way that suggests
that they haven't yet reached the mental capability
to have achieved full enlightenment. They are still
tinged by the emotions of the third dimension.
Various passions and anxieties, wishing to be
pleased. "You will do this" and so on is the words
that they use.
Ashtar: they do not request that if you wish to, it
is, "you will". Do not trust these individuals
however, it may be useful to experiment with them to
see how far they want to go. Gaining their
confidence so that they will divulge things. Then,
report to us and we can see what is happening.
Whether or not the situation is developing into a
dangerous level or if they are just messing around
and do not understand and do not possess the
capability to cause harm which we hope is the case.
However, if inadvertently they start to cause harm,
again we will step in and stop any of this riskful
behavior happening. Now, there is another point to
be discussed. There is the Atlantean, the Egyptian,
and the Knights Templar, there is a problem here.
The first two go together extremely well in the way
of their behavior. The final part, the Knights
Templar, would have a conniption fit at being
associated with the previous two as they believe in
a God being a being whereas the Egyptians believed
in many gods and the Atlanteans believed in a
collective consciousness as a God. Everybody being a
God. You, me, Tia, Calvin, all being Gods which is
true to a certain extent.
Ashtar: so, there is a problem here as well. You
cannot fit those three together, they do not work.
People that were Knights Templar in one life would
have extreme difficulty working with somebody that
has a more recent memory of another era. They would
not jive although there are individuals that have
been all three. But this is to work out karma and
persecutions of the previous two. Somebody that was
a Knights Templar only in a lifetime and not an the
Atlantean nor an Egyptian would have a hard time
working with these individuals.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Ashtar: now, the construction of the aforementioned
pyramid. Obsidian is fine but, using copper and
titanium core for the copper would be beneficial for
focusing energy to create a portal. But, the
question is, where does this portal go?
Ashtar: is it a gateway for conquest? As we suspect
that their form of progress is more in the way of
enforcing their way of thinking on lesser beings. Do
you not try to force your way of thinking onto
animals such as pets?
Ashtar: doesn't that sound correct for them? Are
they not trying to enforce their way on you?
Russ: using the same analogy, yes.
Ashtar: yes, do you wish to be pets?
Ashtar: then why are individuals letting themselves believe
that they will help? Do not help your pets?
Russ: uh-huh, we feed them and all.
Ashtar: uh-huh, but what freedom do they have?
Russ: well our cats are pretty free. They know where
the food dishes are at and come to it when they're
Ashtar: yes, but what about the canine species?
Russ: well they don't have much freedom at all.
Ashtar: and birds and other animals that you keep in
Ashtar: the cage can be a nice environment but it is
no substitute for experience that is not controlled.
Russ: right, they live in a limited world in other
Ashtar: correct. But the fifth dimension is a gateway
to other dimensions because of its very nature of
being space. But, however, it can be turned to your
Ashtar: that by accelerating those selected
individuals that have the capability that are
already enlightened and evolved, can proceed to the
fifth dimension and thus stepping off into other
dimensions. There are some individuals that appear
to be more evolved than the recently ascended. A
person that springs to mind that would be greatly
welcome is the Dalai Lama.
Ashtar: he is by his very nature an enlightened
person. He is not a pacifist so therefore he does
not preach do not cause harm because struggle is
necessary because it means that you learn from it.
Ashtar: and the Dalai Lama appreciates the value of
Russ: yeah, I heard him a few days ago and he is
quite informative and intelligent.
Ashtar: very. And he would be greatly welcomed here
but I believe that he has more work to do with you
before he is ready to make the jump. Now, my time is
as you said running short. I must depart but I
assure you once I have had time to analyze these
facts, and thank you for bringing them to our
attention, I will be back talking to you.
Ashtar: it may be a couple of days, it may be longer
but I assure you we will be giving it our full
Russ: I will keep you fully informed.
Ashtar: thank you.
Russ: my pleasure, you're welcome.
takes the place of Ashtar in the channeling field)
Korton: greetings once again.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: as always.
Russ: as always. Okay, sounds to me like the Kuthumi
fellow, has got some unfinished business down here
Korton: yes it does, doesn't it?
Russ: yeah. It sounds like he's trying hard to
finish it up no matter what the cost.
Korton: uh-huh, even to himself. But he will have
problems once he finishes his karma because he is
creating more. Once his existence in the seventh is
finished, he will return to the third........
Russ: oh geez.
Korton: because he has created more karma that needs
to be worked on.
Russ: how did he get to the seventh in the first
Korton: that eludes me.
Russ: it really eludes me. It's like, this guy
shouldn't have gotten past the fifth.
Korton: well, some things do slip through the gaps
Russ: I guess. Okay, now on reporting and
surveillance, are we talking surveillance of a
astral nature then?
Russ: and reporting from a physical nature.
Russ: okay. Sounds like a good plan. I'll get more
information from Raya on all this fun stuff and get
exact map coordinates to work with.
Korton: yes. Do not as of yet tell her how concerned
we are. Just say that we are showing interest.......
Ashtar: and we advise caution.
Ashtar: caution to proceed carefully and get more
facts and information before proceeding. Point out
various incontinuities as if they're your own
Ashtar: when the time is correct, we will inform
Raya of developments.
Russ: okay. Like opening vortexes in an Atlantean
Korton: yes. And we also perceive that they will
claim to have the builder of the pyramids of Giza.
Russ: yeah, they will assume so.
Korton: yes. No, they will claim sometime down in
the future that they will claim to have the person
who constructed the pyramids of Giza. The Great
Pyramid to be precise.
Russ: that would be fairly easy to determine one way
or another, just do a regression.
Korton: you've already done a regression where an
individual has a little knowledge to say the least.
Russ: right. But we're talking about someone who has
major knowledge and this would be almost impossible.
We'll work on that later.
Korton: remember a brainstorming session?
Russ: I do remember it well.
Korton: yes, and?
Russ: and Mark was in his incarnation of Maxxus
being quite involved in the building of that
Korton: yes? Who would be the best person to use at
present to construct a new pyramid?
Korton: yeah, precisely.
Russ: but with more knowledge than he currently
possesses on pyramid building.
Korton: yes, you would have to regress him to the
Korton: and of course we would not let that happen
in such a situation.
Russ: right, because it would accelerate this
Korton: yes and also because it would open up other
problems and also unleashing the full capability of
Maxxus on these people.
Russ: well yeah, we don't want that. We'd have
crystals popping up everywhere.
Korton: not only crystals but also the fact that he
was a person of quite considerable PK.
Korton: if they got him to a point where he was in a
situation of danger, then what? Would he not unleash
his full psychokinetic capability?
Russ: I wonder if they would do that to me at that
Korton: combined with the capability of
Russ: yeah, you'd be frying brains right and left
Korton: exactly. But in a controlled environment it
could be beneficial.
Russ: right, kept under control.
Korton: yes, exactly. I'm sure that other ascended
beings do not realize the full danger that they
would be putting the people on the third dimension
in by awakening this capability or for a better
word, this monster.
Russ: well that's not going to happen so that's at
least one weight off of our minds.
Russ: if Mark was not in here with us, he'd probably
be with them there.
Korton: yes, and we would send you to stop it.
Russ: that would be no problem, theoretically.
Korton: theoretically. You may have had to do the
brotherly duty to stop the horror.
Korton: repay the debt as it were.
Korton: work out that bit of karma.
Korton: okay, now, to lighter matters.
Russ: thank you, thank you. Yes, I'm pretty excited
Korton: I believe it is your custom?
Russ: oh, yes it is. Well done then. Yes, I'm pretty
Korton: maybe twins, we hope.
Russ: that would be great. Okay, yes, this is much
better than going through deep, deep, deep, deep
Korton: yes. Okay?
Russ: all right.
Korton: now do you have, it would appear from what
has preceded, any light and frivolous questions?
Russ: I'll save a few for Omal.
Korton: okay. Then we have done our duty.
Korton: we look forward to discussing with you this
matter, other matters at a later date?
Korton: as always, it is a pleasure to have been
Russ: all right.
Korton: and have an enjoyable morning.
Russ: you too Korton. Enjoy and we will talk to you
soon on this matter.
bookends an already heavy session with a lighter
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: and how is everything functioning?
Russ: slightly within specified parameters.
Omal: yes. Well, there is nothing that I can touch
that my colleagues have not already touched.
Russ: this is true. Good.
Omal: and this is what we find.
(Russ starts laughing at that one)
Russ: it's a good joke, I like that one.
Russ: all right, manifestation.
Omal: okay, hold out your hand. Do the penny.
Omal: just kidding.
Russ: fifth dimensional manifestation.
Russ: lingerie style.
Russ: okay, pointers please.
Omal: pointers, okay. More concentration, not so
much drifting, more energy.
Russ: okay. Now, was I trying to get too much
Russ: little less detail.
Omal: you were also trying too hard.
Omal: you have to relax a little bit and let the
energy flow. Collect the energy and then let it
Russ: all right. A little too tough an object to
maybe start with?
Russ: I never really got to see the final product,
did it come off pretty good?
Omal: yes, you got it perfect.
Russ: okay, good. All I know is the basics was kind
Omal: yes. A little bit about two inches from the
hip height is what you wished?
Omal: I mean two inches below.
Russ: oh yeah, right.
Omal: yes. Hip height would be up to her navel.
Russ: yes. A little risqué even for Hades Base.
Russ: okay, and then the frills came out real fine.
Omal: real fine.
Russ: okay. Now, I assumed going into this that
working on something of a light, flimsy nature......
Russ: would take considerably less energy than
something more dense as in a penny.
Russ: unfortunately, that's not quite how it works
Omal: no, it is not the case.
Russ: well why is that, because of the size of it?
Omal: partly. Also the construction of different
thickness in materials.....
Omal: especially around the frilly areas and the
fact of the density. You can compact molecules down
quite easy but once you have to stretch them back
out, that takes a little bit more energy so you do
not have to pack them as much. You were tending to
pack them down as if you were trying to create a
Russ: oh. So I little more light and airy in my
Omal: yes. Where it is normally fine to be
heavy-handed, it is not in this case. With the
penny, the more heavy-handed you are the better.
Omal: but, with something so fine and not as densely
packed, then it is necessary to not be as
heavy-handed. In fact it is a very precise thing to
Russ: okay, well being as I've only worked with
Omal: yes, you are at a disadvantage.
Russ: yeah, my first efforts are going to be a
little bit heavy-handed.
Mark: of course but it's given you something to work
Russ: that's true. I mean, I got a lot of good
experience working on that station and fit.
Omal: uh-huh. Once you have mastered it to
perfection here, then you will be able to master it
reasonably well down there.
Russ: uh-huh, that's true. So kind of working on a
little bit lighter materials also is little bit
better for my practice especially in such large
quantity as such.
Russ: okay, I'll try underwear next time.
Omal: yes, I believe she likes boxer shorts.
Russ: oh, yuck. I'm thinking more like fairly
lightweight bikini-style underwear.
Omal: oh, you could.
Russ: less dense and less material.
Russ: she'll have to get used to that.
Omal: okay. Tia likes that sort of thing.
Russ: okay. Well what I'll try to do is set it up a
little bit not quite as lightweight material, maybe
something more like T-shirt material.
Omal: time to change the subject.
Russ: oh, okay.
Omal: the ladies are here.
Omal: the sirens of Hades.
Russ: the ladies of Hades.
Omal: yes, they were kept away because of higher
Russ: ahh, okay.
Omal: Ashtar in other words.
Russ: right, of course. Okay, well the energy was
probably pretty heavy in there at that point anyway.
Omal: uh-huh. And as two of them have to be
Russ: okay. Now then, let's see, I assume then that
the idea for doing a little hand clapping up
Russ: came from someone who would have good
knowledge of such things.
Russ: thank you.
Omal: you're welcome. Okay, next question.
Russ: all right, dealing with surveillance......
Russ: okay, I want to know on going through the
astral form for surveillance, what is it that would
take the same kind of focusing that I used this
morning? In other words, would my ultra senses come
into play for this then?
Omal: focus tightly, use your eyes and your ears.
Don't worry too much about the smell sensation, you
can do away with that and the feeling sensation.
Just concentrate with your eyes and hearing as if
you were watching television.
Russ: hey, there's a good analogy.
Omal: oh, thank you.
Russ: excellent. Okay, so I can use that
same.......better, better. Because you kind of lose
yourself into a TV program.
Russ: it would be the same system where like you
leave yourself in surveillance.
Russ: ahhh, excellent. Okay, thank you.
Omal: okay. Any more questions?
Omal: any jokes?
Russ: no, I came unprepared for jokes tonight.
Omal: we have none either.
Russ: that's all right.
Omal: well next time maybe they'll let me handle
some of the heavy information.
Omal: after all, who runs this place?
Russ: good point.
Russ: all right. Thank you very much Omal for
Omal: well, in the flavor of the current situation,
two star general Omal signing off.
Russ: Lance Cpl. Hatfield out also.
Omal: don't underestimate your rank if this was a
Omal: the only part of it that is military is?
Russ: the pilots.
Omal: yes and they're very un-military compared to
Russ: yes, luckily.
Russ: farewell, we'll talk to you very soon.
(Russ starts laughing)
Omal: I'll be back.
Russ: I'll be waiting. Perhaps Korton should have
used that just before Ashtar channeled?
Russ: that would've been good.
Omal: yes it would've.
Russ: a bit of humor there.
Omal: unfortunately, I don't think humor was on the
agenda for those two.
Russ: no, that was pretty serious.
Omal: yes it was. Well, as a wise man once said,
let's act like a stick of dynamite and get the flock
out of here. Sorry, let's blow this joint.
Russ: right. Take care, I'll see you soon.
Omal: look forward to it.
comes on to get side two started early)
Karra: no Carrie?
Russ: no Carrie, she'll be here Tuesday.
Karra: okay, looking forward to it. I'll be
ready.........yeah, I can focus enough energy, no
Russ: okay, we're going to work on the smaller areas
of the body then?
Karra: yes, as was discussed earlier on.
Russ: okay, I wondered about that since she left
Karra: okay. We'll probably start off with mental
damage and also physical damage from one end to the
other as it were.
Karra: oh, thank you. Well, it takes two to dance,
takes two to play wisk.......no.......chess. Floor
Russ: that's very good.
Karra: yes indeed. Okay.
Russ: all right. What's up love, how you feeling?
Karra: umm, I'm not throwing up yet.
Russ: all right.
Karra: it's still early. I thought I might've been
when we discussed things on Wednesday, was it?
Russ: or Tuesday.
Karra: Tuesday. Thought I might've been but didn't
want to.....you know.
Karra: I mean, as a rule, as I said I'm not normally
late very often. About twice a year. It's normally
after a celebration and then after working very hard
Russ: uh-huh. Neither one of you should hold onto
Karra: no. So, it was likely that I was but I didn't
want to say definite and then have to disappoint
Karra: as it is, it is......
Russ: yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now what's the word here on
Karra: there is a distinct possibility.
Russ: you've had twins before?
Karra: no, but occasionally my eggs have been known
Karra: and as I haven't had any removed for quite a
while, it is possible that this one has split.
(Karra is back but on a new
Russ: if it is possible, there's a name I'd like
to throw at you.
Russ: Jason and......
Karra: Jason and the Agronauts?
Russ: Argonauts, but yeah, close enough.
Karra: ask the channeler what the word Agro means.
Russ: Agro? I know what Agro means.
Russ: Agro means violent?
Russ: that's what I thought.
Karra: it is a joke.
Russ: oh, okay.
Karra: Jason and the aggressive ones?
Russ: well, probably at first.
Karra: yes, with Tia's brood. Possibly.
Russ: it's going to be a children's center up
Karra: yes, we have a children's center planned.
Russ: oh good, you're going to need one.
Karra: yes, which I believe ties in with something
that was discussed briefly about an hour and a
Russ: centers, yeah. Oh wait....
Karra: making the jump to fifth.
Russ: ahh, yeah.
Karra: it is possible that they are the ones. Not
you, not I......
Russ: not Mark.
Karra: not Mark but......
Russ: our offspring.
Karra: yes. After all, we will have a nice,
reasonably healthy gene pool to mess around with.
Russ: that's true.
Karra: how is the channeler's finger from the
Russ: I think it's pretty well gone.
Russ: how is Luna doing?
Russ: oh good.
Karra: uh-huh. She is unfortunately the only one
of her race here.
Russ: so, our condolences?
Karra: no, why?
Russ: well, she's lonely.
Karra: yes. Condolences normally suggest when
somebody has ceased to function. Commiseration's
would be used.
Russ: ahh, thank you, correct.
Karra: and also you have an apology to make to
Russ: for the trip?
Karra: no. For awakening thoughts and memories in
Russ: oh, yeah. That's for sure.
Karra: yes, she knows that you were responsible
for her confusion.
Russ: it was strictly accidental.
Karra: yes. We all make mistakes after all.
Karra: obviously the channeler made a mistake in
not relaying the full story to you.
Russ: yeah, but I'm glad I got it now. I won't be
making that same mistake in the future.
Karra: uh-huh. no, and I can discuss is freely as
the girls or the young ladies, whatever you wish
to call them, are busy at the moment throwing
grapes at each other.
Russ: oh good, what fun.
Karra: uh-huh. They're being very juvenile
including a redhead.
Russ: oh good, at least they are having fun.
Russ: was there any damage done?
Karra: not major.
Russ: now I understand then that this is something
that was necessary. Being as that everything is
perfect, there was a plan for this.
Karra: are we still discussing Tia's
Karra: it wasn't desired as yet, it was a little
Karra: when the time is correct, we will notify
you and then you can jog her memory and pull it
out of her as it were. But we're going to slow
down Tia a little bit on her attempt to be the
first one to go solid on a third dimension.
Russ: oh, because it would accelerate that same
sort of problem.
Karra: yes. We need time to prepare her.
Russ: okay. Anyway, healing.
Russ: I have got this incredible urge to get some
Russ: at least practice.
Karra: well, there is something that you could
practice on. The channeler has been very male and
Russ: yes, I know but we can't work on that.
Russ: let's put it that way.
Karra: we suggest that there is an inflamed area
on the right leg just above the knee. This has
been causing considerable pain to the channeler
and we're probably going to get into trouble for
divulging this as he is as I said trying to be
very macho and go, "no pain, no pain". But we are
concerned that it is forming into a debilitating
disability as bending the knee does cause pain.
Russ: it wouldn't be tough to kind of give him a
workout now. In fact he doesn't have much say in
Karra: no, but you need his say in the matter.
Russ: ahh, bummer.
Karra: because you have to focus his energies and
I can focus his energies but as for control over
such a distance, well you see what happens when I
lack hand eye coordination, I burn things.
Russ: right. Okay, well we're not going to get him
in voluntarily, let's put it that way.
Karra: there is a way, there is a way.
Russ: all right.
Karra: and we shall discuss it with Tia who has
quite a bit to say in the matter and we shall put
Kiri in for the time being.
Karra: so, I'm going to have to set it up with
Russ: good luck.
Karra: ouch. Obviously she heard her name. We
apologize for making a vocal sound that should've
been made up here. As it happens, it appeared down
there as well.
Russ: that's all right.
Karra: and I'm now wet. Oh well.
Russ: oh well.
Karra: see you in a little while......
Russ: it's a deal love.
Karra: and I shall be curled up and I shall be
Russ: okay, I'll be there.
Karra: yes. And Klarra finally is sleeping all
Karra: however, she'll probably won't tonight.
Russ: well, I'll try not to wake her up when I get
Karra: that's all right, dad. See you in a little
Russ: okay mom.
Karra: thank you, I'm used to that.
(Kiri comes amidst a flying
glass of liquid)
Kiri: uh-huh....yo dude.
Russ: yo dudette. Hi Kiri, how's it going?
Russ: all right, I heard you're throwing drinks
Kiri: uh-huh, caught big sis.
Russ: oh, you didn't?
Kiri: uh-huh, just as she came out.
Russ: how's it going love?
Kiri: slippery when wet.
Russ: with that many drinks getting thrown I'm
sure you're lots of wet.
Russ: okay, good seeing you tonight. And Alex is
looking very well.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, now then, do you want asked me
Russ: sure, I'd love to.
Russ: okay, I know that it's almost impossible to
anyone while farsighting.
Russ: okay. Is there a way to coerce someone from
Kiri: you can also do that like me, practice.
Russ: practice? How do you practice something like
Kiri: oh, you take somebody that is five feet
away, you coerce them. Then somebody that is ten
feet away, coerce them. And then fifteen, and then
thirty, keep on upping the distances.
Russ: all right.
Russ: that should be good to practice on.
Kiri: yeah, lots of practice. Me? I can coerce
somebody over 93 million miles.
Russ: good point.
Kiri: I'm fine.
Russ: how about over the telephone?
Russ: no chance.
Kiri: not a hope in.....
Russ: now you do have a voice.......
Russ: and there are ways to pitch your voice.....
Russ: so that you could gain your things you need.
Kiri: that is popping an idea into somebody's
head, that is not coercing them. Yeah, it may sit
in their mind for, oh a few minutes, a few days, a
few weeks, a few years and then suddenly it will
pop out. That is not coercion.
Russ: what is that?
Kiri: that is persuasion.
Kiri: this is part of coercion but it is not
strictly speaking true coercion.
Russ: I need that.
Russ: because I have a feeling I might be having
to use some of that stuff here on a project that I
got scheduled to start working on. Where I might
need to start working on a telephone basis to
people. Long distance like out-of-state.
Kiri: okay, now how do we coerce you?
Russ: well I'm sitting right next to you.
Russ: and you're using Mark's energy.....
Russ: just kind of grab me up with your will.
Kiri: yeah because I'm clever. Okay, hold on, let
me adjust. Okay, now then, I'm not using Mark's
Kiri: disengaging. Now then, you have a great
capability of making nice, warm beverages. It is
enjoyable. We do enjoy drinking tea with you.
Kiri: it needs to be a little bit stronger. A
little bit maybe putting in an extra teabag as it
were. So when you come up this morning, I will
make tea for you to show you the way that it it
needs to be and how I like my tea.
Kiri: okay, now then, back to normality.
Kiri: I'm plugged back in properly.
Russ: very good.
Kiri: uh-huh. Now you'll see what we mean in a
little while. Okay, now then, other questions.
Russ: okay, back to the original question on
Russ: now then, the way you just used your
vocabulary in such a fluid manner was part of the
process. Okay, now, if you eliminate the energy
and use strictly vocabulary.......
Kiri: I can't, can you?
Russ: not quite.
Kiri: you think not?
Russ a little bleed though there.
Kiri: so I'm a little bleeder am I? Anyway, carry
Russ: okay, using those same kind of
Russ: and the way that you coach your phrases, you
can accomplish the desired results.
Russ: though the trick is to have your phrases
down before you say them.
Russ: okay, so we're talking scripts kind of......
Russ: or basic outlines......
Russ: and working with familiar phrases.
Kiri: yeah. Well you can work with the tape first
and then you could be a crypt finder. Okay, so I
haven't got Omal's sense of humor.
Russ: likewise. Okay, to be able to change
Russ: when they have it set on a particular
Russ: it would take a little bit of logic......
Russ: and alternate ideas.
Kiri: yes, laid out very cleverly and precisely
and thought out beforehand.
Russ: okay, so that's my job.
Kiri: full-time or part-time?
Russ: part-time luckily.
Kiri: oh goody.
Russ: yeah. Okay.....
Russ: and that would give me good practice for
then when I get into a real meeting where I'm eye
Russ: to be able add the energy in with that.
Russ: that would get me to think a little on your
Kiri: dream on.
Russ: hey come on, you can do it.
Russ: well, if I can learn to farsight, I can
learn to coerce like you.
Kiri: when I come back, I will show you the full
meaning of the word coercion.
Russ: I'm looking forward to that actually.
Kiri: uh-huh. You will see me coerce. You will see
me in my full capability and blow instead of being
restrained by big sis.
Russ: I'll make sure there's three teabags in
there at that point.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay.
Russ: you out of here? Can I cover his feet up
Kiri: it's up to you.
Russ: (laughing) no, it's up you.
Kiri: it is?
Russ: yes. so they won't be uncovered again once I
Russ: all right.
Kiri: all right, I'm out of here.
Russ: okay darling, have a very good night. Take a
very fun time wherever you're going to do.
Kiri: slippery when wet.
(Luna makes one of her rare
appearences at a channeling session)
Russ: hi Tia.
Luna: that's the first time I have been called
Russ: oh, Luna.
Russ: well, I'm glad to hear you and I should've
realized that it's not quite Tia's manner of
Luna: no, it isn't, is it?
Russ: yeah. But, I'm glad to hear you're back with
Luna: I've not been out.
Russ: I know but you haven't talked in a while.
Luna: I have much to do.
Russ: well I'm glad that you're able to find time.
Russ: enjoy our chat the other tonight?
Luna: so what would you like to drink? I have some
Russ: how about some Sirian white Burgundy?
Luna: I don't have any white Burgundy.
Russ: red wine?
Luna: yes. I have a light red wine.
Russ: okay, I'll leave that to your excellent
Luna: okay. I only have time for one question.
Russ: okay, let me get a good one. Has our earth
shifted axis since it's inception?
Russ: while it was populated?
Luna: only once whilst it was populated.
Russ: and, the results would be of Atlantean
disaster type kind of?
Luna: check out yourt Bible, you can see an
example of the earth shifting.
Luna: that was after Atlantean in recorded history
that you have access to.
Russ: that was after the Atlantean?
Russ: oh, I had always assumed that was the same
thing as the Atlantean.
Luna: no. You see what happens is, occasionally or
periodically, your planet goes through the natural
shifting of poles. It kind of flips over.
Russ: it flips over?
Luna: yes, there is out wobble in the orbit and it
Russ: anything on the horizon?
Russ: is it a predictable shift?
Luna: no, it's not. You see, because of the speed
of the rotation increasing, it becomes less
Russ: oh, good. The thought of our world flipping
axis would be a little bit disconcerting.
Luna: yes it would be.
Russ: it would certainly wreck our ski season
Luna: no, not really because it would make it
Russ: oh, with the shift?
Luna: yes. Well.......
Russ: oh, okay. Well, thank you.
Luna: because Tia wishes to.....
Russ: thank you very much.......
Russ: I'll come up and see you very soon.
(Tia is on to wrap up the
Russ: hi Tia.
Russ: how's it going?
Russ: I'm sure.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay.......
Russ: all right.
Tia: so, what she's been telling you then?
Russ: so how's motherhood treating you, still
Tia: a little. Not as much as I was. Want me to
Russ: no, we better hold off on that.
Russ: but since your gestation period........
Russ: if I got that right.......is shorter than my
Russ: that means your pregnancy period would be a
little bit more of an upheaval.
Tia: a little. It's supposed to last three months
and as I've only been pregnant for now six weeks,
I've still got another six weeks to go before I
start to get a bit of an upheaval. My stomach goes
or currently it will go....hmmmph.
Russ: wow, all at once kind of.
Tia: yeah. My stomach will be out by, let me see
if I can get this right, this is going to be a
little bit of a workout. Someday getting out to
Russ: you have quite a bit then.
Tia: oh yeah. But I've never been pregnant before
so I'm looking forward to it. Somebody else that I
knew there had never been pregnant before.
Russ: oh, she came through it okay.
Tia: yeah. I told you I was tough.
Russ: well, you've got an advantage over them
Russ: you can float.
Tia: oh yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: you can pretty much negate the effects of
gravity upon your body.
Tia: yeah. I won't have any stretch marks either.
Russ: that's right, you won't, will you?
Russ: now here's a question for you.
Russ: you're connected deeply with those children
inside you, correct?
Russ: now, that means mentally you're on a
Tia: not yet.
Russ: well slightly.
Tia: they're only just a little bit smaller than
my little finger.
Russ: that's pretty small.
Russ: okay, well as they grow then, you're going
to have a tighter and tighter telepathic bond.
Tia: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: therefore you're using PK throughout this
Russ: would be kind of like a lesson for them....
Tia: on how to use PK.
Russ: before they're born.
Tia: yes, isn't it?
Russ: I would've never thought of that before.
Tia: uh-huh. I remember as a very little girl, no
smart comments please.....
Tia: but I used to be able to float in my bed. I
was probably be about five, can't quite remember,
it was kind of one of those childhood memories?
Russ: right. So this will be similar to what your
children will go through when they're born.
Russ: they'll have the knowledge.
Russ: boy, that's going to be fun in the nursery.
Tia: oh yeah. You know how much I can lift inert
Russ: how much?
Tia: oh, close to probably about four tons.
Russ: 4 tons!!
Russ: God, my car doesn't weigh 4 tons.
Tia: oh, guess who goes down and helps
occasionally keep her handy with unloading cargo
Russ: oh. Who was it that might've helped out as a
matter of lifting mattresses about a week or two
(Tia starts whistling)
Russ: thank you for that by the way.
Tia: see, I can do it whenever I want.
Russ: uh-huh, pretty amazing stuff.
Tia: yeah. Let me demonstrate. Whirrr whirrr,
funny, they were working this morning.
Tia: now then, there's a message from Karra, I'm
not quite sure what it means. Oops, dropped it. oh
dear, teach me to write things down, won't it?
Yes, later on.
Russ: okay, you'll be assisting then?
Russ: thank you.
Tia: that's what she said anyway. She said yes,
later on when he gets back.
Russ: oh, that's good.
Tia: uh-huh. So we're going to assist when I see
him before he goes, I'm going to say, " listen
here buddy, when you're in pain, I'm in pain. And
at the moment, because I'm pregnant, I don't want
pain". It's not strictly true you know.
Russ: true, but he's going to be listening.
Tia: oh well.
Russ: oh well.
Tia: hey, maybe by mentioning the fact, it will
make you more considerate. Okay, now then....
Tia: Wednesday night.
Russ: Wednesday night. I'm meeting you on some
Tia: uh-huh, how about Sirus?
Russ: oh, I like that.
Tia: fifth dimension.
Tia: outside the Horse and Hound.
Tia: actually, it will be outside the Porpoise and
Tia: sort of a fishy place.
Russ: good seafood I'll bet.
Tia: always something suspicious going on there.
Tia: yes, it is a good seafood farm.
Unfortunately, because I'll be farsighting and
you'll be farsighting, you won't be able to
indulge in it.
Tia: so, next time Taal makes a trip up there I'm
Russ: oh, good idea, grab some good seafood.
Tia: uh-huh. See if he can bring it back with him.
Takes for him about a, oh, two hours there, two
hours back, so it would be a four hour round-trip,
layover of an hour, five hours? Oh, I'm a
Russ: well good, then I'll come up and share some
seafood with you sometime.
Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, I'll keep it nice and fresh.
Russ: all right. If you have any oysters, that'd
be a great job.
Tia: yeah. Okay, now then......
Tia: any questions?
Russ: on farsighting........
Russ: the trip, I need to work on focusing.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, tell you what I'll do, tell you
what I'll do is I'll get on the blower and we
shall get some special plaques made up in your
Russ: oh, that should help.
Tia: uh-huh, so you can read them.
Russ: okay, good.
Tia: what I will do is I will tell the channeler
to write them down so that when you get back, you
tell him, see if they natch.
Russ: excellent, alright.
Russ: and that sounds like a good plan. Am I going
to look for you there?
Tia: I will find you.
Russ: when I get there.
Russ: okay, good, we're set for Wednesday.
Tia: yeah. What did Kiri say, slippery when wet?
Russ: slippery when wet.
Tia: yes, well I always carry a towel.
Russ: hey, a towel is a very valuable item for
Tia: how so?
Russ: well, if you've ever read the "Hitchhikers
Guide to the Galaxy", always keep your towel handy
or know where it's at.
Tia: okay, tell me what's so special about a
Russ: well, a towel has many special uses. You can
use it for a headband in the desert......
Russ: you can use it for a pair of shorts if you
ever have come up short.
Tia: what, you mean like a nappy?
Tia: nappy, I get confused sometimes.
Russ: extra-large napkin for an especially messy
Tia: uh-huh. Use it for hand-to-hand combat.
Russ: you betcha.
Tia: you can use it as a sail to sail down slow,
heavy river mop. Yes, we found the file.
Russ: I thought you might. What is it, a good
frood who knows where his towel is?
Tia: no, it's, "hey, who's that hoopy sass Ford
Prefect, there is a frood who knows where his
Russ: that's the one.
Tia: sass: to meet, to know, to be aware of, have
sex with; hoopy: really together guy; frood:
really amazingly together guy.
Russ: that's the one, very good. You're a file
Tia: yeah. We have a answer, 42.
Russ: now for something completely different.
Tia: you have me at a disadvantage, that's not
Russ: no, that's Monty Python.
Tia: oh, okay.
Russ: anyway, look forward to Wednesday. I think
we're going to have a great, great fun time.
Tia: well, I'm going off to do some thinking with
my other part of my anatomy.
Tia: so, I guess you could say that about wraps it
up for this session.
Russ: yes it does. Thank you very much love, have
a very wonderful time in keeping you happy.
Tia: message from Karra, you're not going to stop
practicing are you?
Tia: oh well, I'm going to go off and get spoken
Russ: okay. Go have fun being spoken for.
Russ: have a great time.
Tia: okay, have a great time then.
Russ: I will.
Russ: bye love.
THE TAPE ENDS