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Archivist Notes: In the channeling session that we posted from July, we heard about the chakra system involving the crown, throat and heart chakra. For the month of September, we travel back in time to a channeling session held two weeks earlier in March of 1999 to cover the lower chakras. Besides Karra wrapping up her symposium on chakras, we have three other speakers sharing their wisdom. There is a period of six minutes in the tape where some form of interference gives up some iffy sound quality but the content was too important to edit out of the finished podcast. We also have Leonedies whose wisdom is vast indeed which is daunting as it is a child who is only four speaking through Mark. We get from him in this session one his longer dissertations and it is one where there is more questions and answers covered than normal. Lyka is very comfortable talking about her pregnancy with its very unusual properties and Treebeard is the last speaker to come on and we get a lesson in the chakra system of trees.

   Getting the night off to a start is Karra taking on ring mistress duties on a relaxed format of topics due to Omal not being able to join the session because of a debate he had to attend. The Tri-base ski races were coming up so plans being made were discussed because of the sudden relocation of the races from Centauri base to Sirius base. When she discusses the rejuvenation facility near the race, she means one of the facilities where Sirians would visit to have their bodies rejuvenated to an earlier age for up to 800 years. After that we moved on to the differences in chakras between the third and sixth dimensions. The subject had been on my so naturally it had been on hers as well so she was well-prepared for the question which turned into a two-part lesson we had to split over two channeling sessions. Here the differences between the lower chakras were the topic and those differences turned out to be dramatic. She gets started on the root chakra and to make a point, she uses as she does for much of the chakras her grandmother, a nun of over 800 years of age live a life of spirituality. That gives her chakra rotation speeds at the top end of their society and uses that for those on this dimension on what is possible. We discover that chakras are both spiritual and physical and how the dimension and body affect the chakras. She finishes with noting some of the chakra rotational speeds of the higher ends of both dimensions and who they would be. That brings to the channeling Leonedies who uses his time in a discussion on the emotional control needed to advance to a higher dimension. He gives examples from his eighth dimensional side as well that demonstrate how on higher dimensions than the sixth they become tools. He accidentally reveals some private information not meant to be said out loud while going through the mind of Karra regarding the death of her soul mate that is a bit eye-opening. We end the side going over that passing and the passing of Kiri and Karra's mother who died when they were younger.

   Leonedies gets back to the subject at hand on side two by using different examples of how different dimensions handle emotions. We learn that we here on earth view beauty one way but that is different from what Karra or Kiri would experience and that is a key in how to advance. He ends with an example his father went through when a teapot here in the house was broken by his girlfriend at the time and the proper reaction of Mark to the event. Karra then ushers on Lyka who breaks the news of her pregnancy and that she would not be able to compete in the upcoming ski races. The pregnancy was a result between two women using a genetically altered substance to do so and success wasn't assured. The lead up to this first started a year prior and was a topic Bunny explained in great detail. Much of her time channeling is about the changes in her life that were to come with the new life within her and we learn a bit about the challenges she will be facing. Her restrictive lifestyle facing her she reveals will be a time of study and completing the steps needed to become a full captain in the Sirian defense force over the two years she will have off from her military career to help raise the child before she is deployed again. We also find out the cravings she's been having and the morning sickness common in any pregnancy. We do get some information on their ability to pull from their past lives the information we have to train for down here such as Lamaze. We also find out rose petals can be a craving to a pregnant mom as well a salmon liver or, not much different from women down here having a need for food important for the growth of the child within. She wraps up by noting that while can still fence, her fencing outfit has a big no-hit patch that has been added. Treebeard in the meantime has woken up and takes his turn answering a question on whether trees have a chakra system. We find that not only do they have one, it is inverted in comparison with a human chakra system. He ponders on the speed of a deva's chakras before we move on to building materials that could replace wood to save more trees. We get to the end of the tape discussing how improving wall thickness in colder climates could improve heat retention but get cut off before his solution could be voiced.

KIRI Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS (Archivist)


2.)(33:40)- Leonedies talks about the emotional control needed for growth and the use of emotions as tools for those in dimensions higher than the sixth.


2.)(8:43)- Lyka is pregnant with a child her and Leah conceived using gene therapy so we get to hear how the birth process goes along and her projected future as a mother and captain in the Sirian Defense Force.

3.)(43:07)- Treebeard wakes up after sleeping through most of the session to speak on the chakra system of trees, specifically trees older than the 70 years it takes for them to start to develop a consciousness.

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(Karra has ring mistress duties and get the session started)

Karra: I didn’t even have to open my mouth did I?

Russ: you never do.

Karra: no. Okay.....

Russ: well you opened your mind.

(Russ starts to chuckle)

Russ: hello love.

Karra: hey, how’s it going hon?

Russ: good my dear, how’s yourself?

Karra: I’m doing fine.

Russ: excellent, excellent, good to see you again.

Karra: it’s good to see you as well, I do apologize for dropping out of your mind so much today.

Russ: oh don’t worry about it darling, it’s been one of those days.

Karra: yes it has.

Russ: how has your day been?

Karra: busy.

Russ: oh, what you got going?

Karra: oh we’re working on the hurried plans of the upcoming ski races at the end of the month.

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: I believe it’s the last weekend will be the finals. We have.....we’ve been real busy, I've been in constant communication with representatives of both Centauri base and Sirius base.

Russ: well perhaps you could help out with the news for this month’s newsletter.

Karra: well okay, I will do what I can. Okay.......

Russ: excellent.

(at this time there is a fixture making noise for about six minutes before it stops and does not start again)

Karra: the races are being transferred from Centauri base to Sirius base. The number of participants is being cut slightly, each team is only allowed to field a team of four as opposed to five. This is to speed up and facilitate a better format because of such short notice.

Russ: wow.

Karra: the amount of people that are allowed to stay in the area, meaning within walking distance, that's up to a mile away....

Russ: right.

Karra: has also been cut by half.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: uh-huh. This is due to the fact that it is felt that if we have lots of people it would make it difficult for competitors to get to their races on time and the fact that we have a format of the races have to start at a particular time and they have to finish at a particular time. There are windows for delays, there are windows for redeployment of equipment for damages and stuff. After all, the races can be pretty harsh on those gates sometimes.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: the only teams that are not being shortened because of its very nature are biathlon and the cross-country teams.

Russ: right.

Karra: they will remain as five people per team, the course has been shortened but only by I think by about a hundred units. So instead of being a 5,000 unit, it’s a 4,900 unit race. That will probably shave off maybe two minutes off of each race but unfortunately needs dictate.

Russ: yes.

Karra: okay on the base, we have a whole load of new personnel, it’s rotation time again. I won’t go into details as there’s quite a few changes. The core staff of course are permanent residents for a certain length of time.

Russ: uh-uh.

Karra: in our case it's anywhere up to a hundred and fifty years.

Russ: how about medical emergencies at the course, are they all planned for and....?

Karra: yes they are planned for, we have a full medical staff and a full medical facility. Fortunately, where we're hosting it is about 13 minutes running distance from the top medical facility in that particular province.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: in fact they have a top-notch rejuvenation facility. In fact it was originally the model for many of the rejuvenation facilities and they certainly continue to do research and development and the facility itself is still the best.

Russ: excellent, that will be good for the racers to know.

Karra: oh yeah and we haven’t had any serious mishaps in the past apart from a very badly damaged leg on one occasion.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: but that wasn’t cause for rejuvenation, we've never had that problem. They also have a pretty good, I wouldn't say the best but a pretty good reconstructive facility.....

Russ: excellent.

Karra: and they also have one of the few all-weather transports.

Russ: oh excellent.

Karra: well being up in the mountains they have to.

Russ: true.

Karra: which means any harsh conditions they can get out and transport and do medical transport which is also very important.

Russ: odds are though most treatment will be taking place at the race event site.

Karra: oh yeah, yeah, they will be setting up a mini hospital and triage.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: the locals are trying to copy without much success, it's not that cold a climate, the Ice Palace. You member the Ice Palace?

(the Ice Palace is a structure built out of blocks of ice near the capital of Sirius)

Russ: oh yes absolutely.

(finally the fixture making noise no longer disrupts the recording)

Karra: they've done one on a much smaller scale and it won’t be open for living in because of course the climate is a little warmer.

Russ: ceilings drip.

Karra: yes they do. But it’s more of a walk-around restaurant setup with the look of the Ice Palace.

Russ: oh excellent.

Karra: the Ice Palace this year has been bigger and better than ever thanks to a very cold, cold snap. The lake that it sits in front of froze to a depth of about four units.

Russ: wow.

Karra: so they were able to cut a lot of blocks and build the Ice Palace very quickly. It looks pretty good this year actually, I’ve only seen holos and hopefully it will still be able to be visited and still be safe.

Russ: will you be visiting Sirius during the races?

Karra: of course, I’ve got to.

Russ: then you’ll be going and seeing the Ice Palace right?

Karra: of course.

Russ: of course.

Karra: if it’s still open.

Russ: true.

Karra: that area as I said has had a colder then normal winter. Also whilst we’re visiting, Kiri will be competing and she is going off to check out her new property.

(this is a plot of land in the mountains where there are some pink flowers growing which have an aphrodisiac quality)
Russ: ahh yes.

Karra: which all reports are it’s still under a lot of snow.

Russ: ahh that’s good.

Karra: that’s very good.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: it means that there will be a poor harvest but being a poor harvests means…..

Russ: it’s good for Kiri.

Karra: it's going to be a intense flavor.

Russ: I believe that brought that up in the last newsletter I think.

Karra: uh-huh, I think so.

Russ: so that will be a good tie-in to that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: okay, back to the base, there have been no new births, there’s been no serious complications, there’s only been the rotations, there hasn’t been any personnel lost due to active service of the….

Russ: patrols?

Karra: yes the patrols. One of my former patients has skipped her period but mums the word on that at the moment.

Russ: of course.

Karra: mainly because I’m not allowed to say who it is.

Russ: of course.

Karra: okay, where do we go from here?

Russ: well I want to do some discussion if I could on sixth dimension compared to third dimension and the use of the various chakras between the two dimensions.

Karra: okay.

Russ: now I figured you’d be the person to talk to on that….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: being as you’ve got a very good knowledge on the chakra system.

Karra: yes and of course I was already aware you were going to ask those questions so I am ready.

Russ: well I suppose that’s cheating but okay, we’re working this evening on third dimensional use of chakras to a certain point and that would be to the solar plexus.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: mainly sticking around the base chakra and the second chakra.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that being of course due to survival, fear being a main factor in maintaining those to that point.

Karra: okay, first of all let’s look at the root chakra……

Russ: okay.

Karra: and compare the third and the sixth dimensions. First of all, the third dimension has a spinning cycle that is a lot less and a lot slower than the sixth dimensional for the obvious reasons. The spirituality awareness involved, it reflects in the speed of the chakra. How the chakras open and close, again also differences occur between the third and the sixth. They tend to open up much, much wider almost to the point of just being a thin, circular ribbon on the sixth whereas on the third they don’t open up anywhere near as close except for people of extreme spiritual awareness. People like popes, llamas, Buddhas, priests of extreme knowledge but again they don’t get as wide as they do on normal persons on the sixth dimension. On the sixth dimension holy people, extreme holy people, their chakras will almost fade into an almost invisible band that is totally unperceptible because they are so open and spiritually aware. We’ve had, we being by my younger sibling and myself, have had experience with people that have chakras that turn into a very thin, thin ribbon due to the fact that our grandmother is like that.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: this normally happens in great states of for want of a better word grace. When our grandmother is in between world’s doing what she does best, her chakra is almost totally invisible. It is my considered belief and my sister's considered belief that this is due to the fact that she is in limbo between worlds. Okay getting back to other differences in chakras in general but primarily the lower chakras, the rotation is also in a different direction. For example, most people on your planet, their chakras spin left to right. On Sirius, most people and I say most, spin from right to left.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: this is not any serious difference, it is more of a genetical and physical difference but nothing that is of importance but it is worth noting as it does affect the equilibrium as it were.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: now with the more spiritually unenlightened, the chakras rotate very, very slowly and hardly open at all, some don’t even open at all. The spiritual natures of the chakras and the rotation is also reflected in the instinctual capacity. The more instinctual a person is, the slower the rotation and the opening and the closing is. For example, again let’s go back to my beloved grandmother, her chakras rotate at a very, very high speed and open and close very rapidly and very wide. They can go from a state of rest when she is dormant where they are rotating fairly rapidly which is normal for her to where they are rotating way beyond.......trying to think of a phrase.....circular saw rates. Way beyond.......let us estimate or about 1,500 to 2,000 cycles per second, that’s very, very high. A normal cycle on the third dimension, let us say a spiritually enlightened person on the third dimension, rotates at about 150 to 200, big difference.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: a less spiritually aware or a spiritually underprivileged person……you’ll have to excuse me I’m being politically correct….

Russ: that’s all right, no problem.

Karra: less spiritually enlightened person, their’s rotates at maybe 15 to 20 cycles a second, very, very slow. An average person, their’s will rotates at about between 80 to 100. So you see that there are major differences from somebody that is less instinctual, less anxiety ridden to somebody that is more instinctual and more anxiety ridden. You have some questions?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay first off, you mentioned spiritual quite heavily throughout this dissertation…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and the correlation it has with the speed of the chakras.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now for someone who is let’s say reading the page and comes upon this, the question would come about with the terminology of spiritual and the use of the term in everyday life. For example whether spiritual on sixth dimension equals spirituality on third dimension.

Karra: yes to a certain extent it does. Spirituality is not believing in a God, gods, goddesses, it’s living a life that is in tune, in tune with nature, feeling the spiritual vibes around them. It’s not going and praying every day, it is not being pious or following a particular religion, it is being in tune with nature where a lot of the spirit elements come from, the spiritual awareness.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: to be a spiritual person you don’t have to be cloistered away in a monastery or sequestered in a religious facility or walk a religious path, it is being in tune with everyday surroundings, appreciating the beauty of freshly fallen snow, appreciating the sunrise, the sunset, appreciating the existence of life itself. Feeling the air, realizing that the cold, harsh air is as much a part of life as the warm, humid air.

Russ: so the term stop and smell the roses comes into effect at this point?

Karra: yes, very much so. A spiritual person will take the time to talk to a child eye to eye.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yeah get down to the child’s eye. A spiritual person will also be very, very harsh.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: more along the lines of using a kick in the pants when all else fails.

Russ: uh-huh, understandable.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, you also bring up the term instinctual. Now this of course would relate to our ancestors who were very instinctual in the matter of survival needs.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now many of those same traits have genetically passed through to those on the third dimension but in most people they’ve been lessened to a great degree and others they're still quite heavily influenced.

Karra: no they're still there.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: they're still there, they’re just changed the environment.

Russ: I see.

Karra: an instinctual reaction is a reaction that is necessary for survival.

Russ: oh.

Karra: it is instinctual to breathe but that’s not what I’m getting at. The instinctual reaction is for example to get defensive when threatened.

Russ: right.

Karra: to become aggressive when somebody else is being aggressive, whether it is in mannerisms or in wording. To use various defense mechanisms when threatened. People that are very instinctual know exactly if this situation happens and they use a opposite reaction, they’re going to achieve much more effect when they answer fire with fire.

Russ: right. Okay now the next part is using control of the speed of your chakras, is it a ability that we're able to develop to speed up our chakras to a higher level through focusing maybe?

Karra: yes but okay, let us do a dissertation on that.......

Russ: excellent.

Karra: in comparison with third and sixth.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay the third dimensional chakra rotation of the more spiritually enlightened as I said is between 1,500 to 2,000.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: sorry, 150 to 200.

Russ: ahh okay.

Karra: yeah I because about to say, I'm still thinking on the sixth.

Russ: all right.

Karra: okay let’s start off with the sixth.

Russ: all right.

Karra: 1,500 to 2,000 cycles a second.

Russ: okay.

Karra: okay, the reason that the revolutions are so high is that the more spiritually aware on the sixth dimension are closer to being able to shift between spiritual realms, the physical and the spiritual, between the dimensions that they inhabit and lower dimensions. Some are fortunate in being able to do that with the higher dimension, being able to astral travel to the seventh and the eighth dimensions and being able to rotate at a speed that is even though not that advanced compared to the seventh and the eighth, it is enough for them to maintain the focus. Looking at it, the higher the revolutionary cycle, the more spiritually evolved an individual is. I estimate again my grandmother’s cycle to be somewhere around about 1,600 to 1,700 which is very, very fast. It appears that the thinner the ribbon of the chakra once they're fully open and enlarged, also reflects to the spiritual awareness and the closeness to being able to achieve the change to the seventh. It also ties in with a higher cycle. Having a high cycle of approximately 1,600 to 1,700 cycles a second and a fairly thin chakra ribbon when they’re fully open, almost to the point of being imperceptibly visible, it doesn’t necessarily dictate that an individual is ready to achieve ascension to a higher level. Sometimes it is just the very nature of the spiritual person. What I’m saying is that my grandmother probably unlikely is ready to go to the seventh dimension.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: however on the lower dimension, on the third dimension, having a cycle that is between 150 to 2,000 does open that possibility of ascension to the sixth dimension. Again, with the increase in the opening of the chakra, would also imply that it is more spiritually available to ascension as is the opposite or not the opposite but the difference between the sixth dimension and the third, it doesn’t automatically dictate. On the third, it means that the potential is much higher than on the sixth. This is because the third being much more dense and much harder or harsher universe or dimension, makes it much more difficult to achieve the revolutionary cycles and the opening and closing of the chakras at such a wide difference. But also in the nature of the chakras, the similarity being that they're used very much for the same purpose. The purpose of freeing up the instinctual ability and the spiritual awareness for advancement. In being able to achieve the circular increase, it is also able to achieve a more rapid spiritual learning.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: but one of the difficulties involving emotional status is that sometimes as the revolutionary speed increases and the opening of the chakra becomes wider, it also sometimes can make an individual very emotionally erratic.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: not so much in the ability going from one extreme to the other or from a high to a low, it means that it is hard to plot a emotional stability that the roller coaster ride whilst the peaks may be very, very long and the troughs very, very long to get there, there is a definite disadvantage to being emotionally erratic.

Russ: ahh.

Karra: however, there are individuals that do advance and their cycles increase and the rotational speed up to 200 cycles a second and they do open wide that are very, very emotionally stable, almost emotionally devoid although they do have emotions but they are hidden and controlled. One individual that springs to mind is the Dalai Lama, our most favorite individual that springs to mind as a matter of fact. Okay?

Russ: okay well you answered two questions there, one you mentioned it was going on third dimension from 150 to 2,000, I assume you meant 200.

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay. And the other is, I had assumed that the denseness as you mentioned of third dimension would be the difficulty in speeding up the chakra…...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but the chakras as far as I know have no mass.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so how is it that they're affected by the denseness of a dimension?

Karra: because they are physical……

Russ: they are?

Karra: not just spiritual.

Russ: oh.

Karra: or even spiritual is physical but it is a different kind of physical. Something doesn’t have to be seen to be physical.

Russ: so they are controlled by what?

Karra: by the body.

Russ: okay.

Karra: you see? That is the answer to your next question, how does the physical body affect the chakras?

Russ: right.

Karra: because of the movement of the body through the denseness of the third dimension affects the rotation and speed of the chakras that are physical but not visible.

Russ: hmm. So…..

Karra: you get it don’t you?

Russ: yeah, I've seen that the spiritual part of nature as you say as we go through and we experience it, it speeds up our chakras.

Karra: correct.

Russ: but sitting around watching TV and being devoid of that spirituality….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: maintains the chakras at a lower level.

Karra: correct.

Russ: okay. Now what about in churches where many people have gathered and in a religious, in their sense gathering, are they automatically raising each other chakras?

Karra: no, no, it doesn’t quite work that way. When third dimensional beings gather in a church, most are feeling that they’ve got to fulfill an obligation. Negative emotion, fulfilling a obligation. They really don’t want to be there but they have to be as they are involved in a religious organization.

Russ: ahh.

Karra: and that they feel that they have to go and pray to their God in their religious facility so it is an obligation.

Russ: well before we get in too much trouble here, well there was one in Oregon that was something that was more of a thing where people wanted to be at…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: than just were kind of forced to be at or were obligated to be at.

(this was a church I was a member of for a year where I lived in Oregon)

Karra: yes, if it is more wanting to and everybody wants to, yes the increase does happen.

Russ: ahh excellent.

Karra: having talked to Mark today as I’m sure you’re aware……

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: one of the things that I did ask him about was the Druid religion that he’s involved in.

Russ: oh yes.

Karra: and that their churches are all outside.

Russ: oh yes right, absolutely.

Karra: and most Druids from the opportunities that I’ve had to analyze and watch, are more spiritually in tune and their chakras do rotate at a much higher frequency than most people because they don’t feel obligated and they’re surrounded by their church whenever they go outside.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: so that they're always at church so as a rule, the Druids tend to be more spiritually enlightened than people that are in an organized one day a week religion paying homage to a deity that they feel obligated to.

Russ: I see. Okay…..

Karra: I’m deliberately choosing my words very carefully because I am walking a tightrope.

Russ: good call. Now, the benefits of an open and more rapidly spinning chakra…..

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: health, well-being, so on.

Karra: yes, yes there are health and well-being most certainly but also health is not just a chakra thing. A chakra will continue to spin at a higher rate in a more spiritually aware person even if they are in poor health. Even though their chakra will slow down, in comparison to normal, everyday third dimensional people, it will continue to rotate at a higher frequency.

Russ: hmmm, I’m sure we could spend hours on just chakras alone.......

Karra: oh most certainly, most certainly and the effects that they have.

Russ: we still haven’t gotten anything higher than the solar plexus.

Karra: no, no. I will add that the standard rotational speed of chakras vary from chakra to chakra.

Russ: okay.

Karra: 1,500 to 2,000 are the lower chakras......

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: that’s an average between the two. If we go up higher to the heart, the brow, and the crown…..or the throat chakra sorry……you will see a wild difference.

Russ: wow.

Karra: the crown chakra on my grandmother rotates at about 16 to 19,000 per second.

Russ: wow.

Karra: the top end of the more spiritually aware individuals that are closer to their jump are about 25 to 30,000 cycles a second.

Russ: hmm, and when you get to the higher dimensions for example Omal, his chakras would spin at probably what? 30, 35,000?

Karra: probably, I’m guesstimating at that point. I mean Omal’s not available tonight as it’s debate time for him.

Russ: ahh unfortunate.

Karra: unfortunate that’s why I’m being very free and relaxed with talking.

Russ: excellent, excellent.

Karra: okay I suppose we better continue and answer more questions or do you wish to talk to somebody else?

Russ: well how many people are on here tonight?

Karra: we have Treebeard, Leonedies, Kiri, Lyka.

Russ: oh we got quite a croud. All right I would like to continue this next week though and go on to the higher chakras….

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: because that’s where my next questions go to is going up to the heart and so on from that point.

Karra: okay, that would be very wise and a good idea.

Russ: excellent, thank you very much Karra.

Karra: okay? You’re welcome.

Russ: love you.

Karra: love you too.

(Leonedies begins to speak for quite a bit longer than normal)

Russ: greetings Leonedies.

Leonedies: greetings Russell. Okay, you have some questions for me.

Russ: yes I do is a matter of fact and it’s all concerning your….

Leonedies: yes I know.

Russ: of course you do but for your tape's purposes…..

Leonedies: of course, we will elaborate and facilitate in the most barbaric and primitive communication of vocal cords.

Russ: I agree, I wish the whole, entire webpage class could be here. All right.......

Leonedies: they can.

Russ: that’s true they can with the technology available to us.

Leonedies: that is correct.

Russ: that’s right, we’re working on it and the little ways down the road I’m afraid.

Leonedies: okay.

Russ: all right, concerning the steps necessary towards getting to the sixth dimension, you were discussing with Mark those various techniques......

Leonedies: oh that, yes.

Russ: or attributes.......

Real: uh-huh.

Russ: I believe would be the proper terminology for that. First off I believe you were discussing with him emotions.....

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: and the control of emotions in being an attribute toward a sixth dimensional consciousness. Perhaps you could elaborate a little bit on that for me.

Leonedies: okay emotional control, first of all I will make a few comments concerning emotional control. Emotional control on higher spiritual levels is not always total. There is an example that I can think of where my bodily functions at younger age caused me to make a mess in my underwear and I lost my patience with that, that is an emotional response. Even though I’m a eighth dimensional being inhabiting a sixth dimensional body, I am not devoid of emotions. In fact I have two sets of emotions, I have a sixth dimensional response and an eighth dimensional response, controlling those emotions and using them in a beneficial way is the key. For example, let us take a emotional reaction from an esteemed colleague of mine Ashtar and the sound of annoyance in his voice. That emotional response is used as a tool, a tool to make you realize that, “oh, we’ve done something wrong.” On a higher level speaking as an eighth dimensional being, emotions don’t play a stronger role unless we're acting as teachers to lower dimensions. When we act as teachers we have to use those emotions to help bring up their level to a higher spiritual level. When Ashtar acts in a way that is seemingly to the point blunt, almost hostile, it is to get your attention and to make you think. Even though he does not have the actual, emotional behavioral pattern, he is using the emotion as a tool not for his benefit but for your benefit. By pausing and looking within ourselves, what would take you 20, 30, 40 minutes to analyze takes us a mere microsecond that I can dwell and think upon an emotional response to a situation if you’re sitting there acting as if you’re bored, I can suddenly without warning change my tone, my look and you must pay attention. And in doing so, my body language changes and I become much more aggressive or much more placid depending on the situation. I can go from in a mere heartbeat to a very mellow or very to the point or to explain better by using those different emotions, those different tones, different reactions gets your attention depending on the situation.

Russ: uh-huh.

Leonedies: also, using other tools available to me I can generate certain vibrational frequencies or emotions within your air to either open you or close you to make you feel that I am probing, attacking, giving off energy directed at your shields when in actual fact I’m not.

Russ: right.

Leonedies: but the examples that I’ve just given you with the emotional responses are a demonstration. When you think I have probed your shields, I have not half the time but by generating the energy as if I were puts you in a lesson where you are more easier to learn. So emotional control is not only suppressing them but learning how to use them. As my father told me this morning, you guys were discussing emotional responses of traumatic departures.

Russ: correct.

Leonedies: my father made the comment that it is not so much the nature of the passing but the event and the situation that makes it occur. For example, my, he would be uncle? Yes my uncle on a sixth dimensional existence passed in a way that because of the life of Sirians, the way that they live such a beautiful life, was totally horrific. Even though my auntie had seen far worse passings, those were just as traumatic but they didn’t stay with her due to the fact that her emotional status was very unbalanced because of her gender. She was aware that she had conceived the night before and it was more anger and traumatic……..I think I’ve just made a mistake……oh well…..

Russ: oh yeah, I’d say.

Leonedies: what do you mean by that?

Russ: I'm not even sure where we're going with that.

Leonedies: it was Alana.

Russ: yeah I know that part but.......

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: what about your uncle, which uncle was that?

Leonedies: that was Karra’s soulmate.

Russ: okay.

Leonedies: I never knew him.

Russ: ahh.

Leonedies: but because I’m of that family, the family Tanaka or my current genes are.......personally I prefer something like Levi’s as opposed to Wranglers......I still don’t understand your humor.

Russ: no, you’re getting there.

Leonedies: never. Karra was aware that she had conceived, that’s what they wanted. From what I’ve learned, not by probing, she was still in a very heightened stage of spiritual, sexual awareness and it was very traumatic that suddenly boom, the person that she wanted to father her child and fathering is not just the action, the mating, it is much more than that as you will find out. It is a continuation that goes on for many, many years.

Russ: hmm okay.

Leonedies: but her emotional status is a prime example, prime example of a sixth dimensional, spiritual state. She was so emotionally heightened that her spiritual state was so…..I’m glad that she’s decided to open up for me to explain it easier…..she was in such a heightened, spiritual, sexual state which is a very emotional state that the shock of seeing her loved one blown away and the mind reaching out trying to grasp the departing spiritual form and not being able to contact or connect properly as would normally be done on a physical, leaves a very deep, emotional scar, very deep.

Russ: okay.

Leonedies: another example I’m……

Russ: good point though, thank you, that clears up a lot.

Leonedies: uh-huh. You see it’s a very spiritual state, very spiritual state and a very emotional state.

Russ: what about Kiri and Karra’s mother…..

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: who over a long, protracted time just took place?

Leonedies: okay, for Karra it doesn’t seem to be such a sad event….

Russ: right.

Leonedies: it is more of glad that it was over but for my mother who was very young, 17 years old when my grandmother died.......

Russ: hmmm.

Leonedies: and at the height of her spiritual, sexual exploration……




(Leonedies returns to the subject he had initiated)

Leonedies: …..auntie who when her soulmate was taken, my mother was very open and spiritually and emotionally aware, exploring more which is even harsher than the sexual, spiritual state. The exploration at that point is something that is very open, open to all sorts of pain, all sorts of suffering, all the nerve endings as it were are raw and open and are wanting input. And to be someone that you love deeply, a life giver, is something that is at that age and state is very, very harsh, very, very hard, very, very painful.

Russ: hmm.

Leonedies: you see, in many ways, my mother is very much like my grandmother. When you think my great-grandfather has such a hard time saying no to his daughter…..

Russ: right.

Leonedies: because she is very much like my grandmother in her rebelliousness, in her sexual activities, in her…..yes I am aware…..her kink.

Russ: right.

Leonedies: I may only be in a physical form of four years but I am also much more consciously aware.

Russ: of course. Okay I understand, so actually in a higher dimensional sense, the lack there is and definite emotional response that still is with you in sixth dimension but doesn’t detract from that sixth dimensional state.

Leonedies: no, it is more controlled except for at times of great......not just sexual states but emotional states or great situation of great levity and gravity.

Russ: okay.

Leonedies: the more intense the situation on a vibrational level, the more intense the emotional response will be.

Russ: okay. So to clarify, on a day-to-day basis with just average everyday problems, emergencies and so on….

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: the emotional control you use in dealing with those is actually an attribute towards a sixth dimensional consciousness.

Leonedies: yes, yes. For example, I'm glad that they're both open and thinking the same thing, Sarah….

Russ: oh yes.

Leonedies: when Sarah passed, what was my auntie’s emotional response? She was happy.

Russ: yeah.

Leonedies: it was over, the pain had been taken away. My mother was the same and I can keep talking because Treebeard has done a typical old person thing and is sound asleep......

Russ: oh okay.

Leonedies: so whether or not we get Treebeard is a point open to conjecture.

Russ: okay. So it’s how you handle the day-to-day, those emotional responses….

Leonedies: uh-huh yes. They are the ones that differentiate between the sixth and the third.

Russ: right.

Leonedies: with the third, the people that seem to be much more emotionally responsive seem to be much less spiritually aware.

Russ: now this brings up an interesting conundrum for me.

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: Karra and I were talking about experiencing the beauty of nature in opening up the chakras….

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: and for me that would have an emotional response of seeing the beauty of nature and just reveling in it.

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: but yet having an emotional response it seems like in that respect would be a negative.

Leonedies: no, no because seeing the beauty of nature for a sixth dimensional being…..and let me put on my sixth dimensional body for a second….

Russ: okay.

Leonedies: is more along the lines of, and that is an amusing response that I’m getting, is more of appreciation.

Russ: oh okay.

Leonedies: which is a different response than what you would experience.

Russ: oh okay.

Leonedies: the appreciation of something beautiful, whether it is a burnt stump of a tree or a freshly......I believe my auntie used the word snow, freshly fallen snow?

Russ: right.

Leonedies: the beauty of that. It is the appreciation for the beauty of anything whereas you have an emotional response, they have a response of appreciating and looking at it from a totally different angle.

Russ: I see. So, in another words let’s say I have a car accident…

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: and I get emotionally upset, that would be the negative as opposed to being controlled.

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: but to see a tree and appreciate its beauty is the opposite of that, being able to enjoy would heighten my chakras…

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: and open them therefore it would be more of a sixth dimensional attribute.

Len: correct.

Russ: got it.

Leonedies: a good example of a third dimensional reaction is how when something that you appreciate is broken? A good example was my father had a teapot that he absolutely adored…..

Russ: umm yes.

Leonedies: and his young lady of the time broke it.

Russ: right.

Leonedies: her emotional response was to run, to leave, to hide, what with my father’s response?

Russ: anger at first.

Leonedies: no.

Russ: no?

Leonedies: no. His response was, “oh well, it’s just a pot. It's the memories attached to the pot that were important, not the pot itself."

Russ: oh okay.

Leonedies: “a pot is just a pot” I think was his words. Whereupon I think he went and made a cup of tea in a different teapot….

Russ: oh that’s right, that’s right, I remember now.

Leonedies: uh-huh.

Russ: good point, good point. Well thank you, that was very enlightening.

Leonedies: you’re welcome, I try.

(Karra returns to make the transition between speakers)

Karra: hello again hon.

Russ: hello love.

Karra: how’s it going my love?

Russ: excellent, excellent.

Karra: good, good. Yes I had open up because he was knocking hard and after the last time he knocked and entered without asking where I had my nosebleed?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: I thought it was best to let them in and let him after what he wanted.

Russ: good call and actually it worked well because it ties in nicely between your dissertation and his.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay let us put on the next speaker.

Russ: excellent.

Karra: and I don’t think we’re going to have Treebeard as Treebeard has got his head thrown back and I’m glad that he’s outside the field. Also we're going to rotate between locations.

Russ: okay.

Karra: even though I enjoy hosting the channeling sessions, they are a little more formal than what they were in the bamboo forest.

Russ: ahh excellent, all right.

Karra: for example, everybody is fully dressed.

Russ: oh what a shame.

Karra: and everybody is sitting prim and proper.

Russ: oh what a pity. Well I don't mind, I think rotating would be fine.

Karra: uh-huh, it’ll be much more easier and besides, the portable unit that they have there is much more advanced and much better than the one we have here.

Russ: right and also easier for Leonedies to come out and channel too.

Karra: uh-huh, because his poor little legs get so tired.

Russ: I understand. Excellent okay, good call.

Karra: okay.

(Lyka replaces Karra in the channeling field)

Russ: hey Kiri.

Lyka: let me talk first thank you.

Russ: oh sorry, yeah I was wrong.

Lyka: God, enlisted personnel.

Russ: well, well, well.

Lyka: no Skipper?

Russ: no, Skip couldn’t make it tonight.

Lyka: oh dear. I’ve got an announcement to make.

Russ: ahh excellent.

Lyka: I will not be able to compete this year.

Russ: no way.

Lyka: for health reasons.

Russ: oh no.

Lyka: an experiment that I tried succeeded…..

Russ: okay.

Lyka: sooner than anticipated. First time we tried it it succeeded which is wonderful but I won't be able to compete.

Russ: are you pregnant?

Lyka: yes.

Russ: oh well congratulations.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: that’s excellent.

Lyka: it was just a test actually.

Russ: well it’s a great test if you got pregnant on the first time, I’m happy for you.

Lyka: first time. Yes......

Russ: any idea what it is?

Lyka: well there’s only one thing it can be.

Russ: a girl.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: of course.

Lyka: of course.

Russ: wait this is between you and….

Lyka: uh-huh, our genes.

Russ: I’ll be danged.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: that is a great experiment, congratulations big time.

Lyka: thank you, thank you.

Russ: for both of you in fact…

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: all three of you.

Lyka: yes and we will be having our bonding ceremony, we're going to officially bond.

Russ: congratulations, this is great news.

Lyka: we will be going to Leah’s estates…..

Russ: excellent.

Leah: after the races.

Russ: oh you will be attending the races then?

Lyka: yes.

Russ: excellent.

Lyka: I’ve been requested when I let my team know that I would be unable to compete due the fact of my condition. I’m also taking a leave of absence as I have to be monitored and watched very carefully.

Russ: I assume all your competitors threw a big party upon getting the news.

Lyka: actually I received from all the competitors from Centauri and Sirius their relief and the fact that they want to award me an honorary gold.

Russ: well fantastic, excellent. Will you accept?

Lyka: to not accept would be an insult.

Russ: oh, you’re quite right, of course. But you won’t be doing anything.

Lyka: no I won’t be.

Russ: it would be almost be like getting it for nothing.

Lyka: well actually I will take one run.

Russ: oh you will?

Lyka: but I will ski standing up straight and slowly.

Russ: no tucks, no jumps.

Lyka: no nothing.

Russ: no nothing.

Lyka: so….

Russ: well you’re in a very delicate condition at this very point.

Lyka: uh-huh very because of the very nature of the experiment.

Russ: what are the odds of getting nailed on the first time?

Lyka: about two million to one.

Russ: not, well congratulations doubly so then, that’s fantastic.

Lyka: well we were at it pretty much all night. We had enough of the artificial substance, not the artificial substance, the genetically altered substance to be able to do it all night.

Russ: excellent, excellent.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: well that’s great news and I think you'll have a great time at the races anyway cheering on the Hades Base team.

Lyka: oh of course, of course.

Russ: and of course your biathlon team right?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: and you’re not competing in that then either.

Lyka: no.

Russ: oh, I’m sure your teammates are a bit let down on that one.

Lyka: uh-huh and my commanding officer was quite upset actually……

Russ: I can imagine.

Lyka: because I did not consult correctly so my military status is a little shaky at the moment but I don’t mind.

Russ: oh no not with this in mind, this is a priority over everything else.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: so…..well I should know, I have a similar situation myself going on.

Lyka: yes you do don’t you?

Russ: uh-huh, a little bit closer to the event than yours but still nonetheless it still is exciting.

Lyka: six weeks so….

Russ: well so big congratulations…..

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: I am very happy for you.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: and of course Leah too, I mean this is something that you've both been working on for a while.

Lyka: oh yeah and my sexual arousal state is coming back to normal.

Russ: excellent, has Bunny heard about this yet?

Lyka: she was there at the conception but she hasn’t heard yet.

Russ: well I’m sure the news will get to her pretty quick here.

Lyka: well she’s still at college and she's not answering mail at the moment.

Russ: oh big into her studies and such.

Lyka: yes, I believe so.

Russ: well that’s great.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: boy. Hmm, so any idea on names yet or is it still early?

Lyka: it's still too early besides she’ll pick the name when she’s ready.

Russ: that’s true.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: so obviously it’s someone with a past life associated with both you and Leah.

Lyka: we hope so.

Russ: hmm, so at least one of you but I’m sure they’ll be somebody that will bring you both joy and good learning experiences for both of you.

Lyka: uh-huh I hope so too, I hope so too.

Russ: excellent, so what are you going to do with your time off now?

Lyka: study.

Russ: study what?

Lyka: military science.

Russ: oh really?

Lyka: uh-huh, I thought I would take one of your earth courses and see how quickly I go through it. Well actually even though I’m on a leave of absence, I'm still going to continue my studies.

Russ: excellent, excellent.

Lyka: uh-huh because I’m not officially, even though I hold the rank of captain, I’m not a full captain because I’m a student.

Russ: oh, so this will be a step toward getting that full captaincy then.

Lyka: uh-huh, even though in every aspect I am a full captain except for the fact that……better would be probationary captain?

Russ: correct, yes.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: wow, this is great news. What kind of things are you going to study? Like ancient history as in like Babylonian……..

Lyka: well I’ve got to work on my ballistics and trajectory still.

Russ: oh, so a bit higher up in the….

Lyka: uh-huh, so I’m going to be working on that, that is one of the courses I need to brush up on.

Russ: again still huh?

Lyka: still.

Russ: oh.

Lyka: I’ve got a work of my maths. I passed my explosive chemistry courses but I just scraped by on my physics so I’m going to brush up on that.

Russ: well you'll have some great time to do so.

Lyka: uh-huh and I have a leave of two years.

Russ: two years?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: wow. So who’s the new captain?

Lyka: actually it’s a lieutenant.

Russ: oh.

Lyka: and he is currently on Sirius and I’m still making my inspections but even though I am officially on leave, I don’t have any formal functions other than the fact that I make inspections and I can continue studying.

Russ: oh.

Lyka: my doctor told me that I can still work out but every time I work out I have to go down and report to her…..

Russ: excellent.

Lyka: which is once a day. I can’t ski competitively, swimming is something that they say I don’t have to go and get checked out afterwards unless I do diving.

Russ: you can’t go in the dolphin pool.

Lyka: no, that’s a big out.

Russ: nope.

Lyka: I can continue to be active they say up until I'm about eight of your months.

Russ: hmm okay.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: gestation period’s the same, nine months…..

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: as I remember. So you're....

Lyka: pretty close to nine months…..

Russ: you’re not showing yet.

Lyka: a little over actually.

Russ: but there is no showing, no nothing like that, you can feel this mind inside of you?

Lyka: not yet.

Russ: oh you can’t?

Lyka: not yet. Yeah, I’m learning all sorts of new things about it. I’ve learned that it’s very common for a first-time mother, both on your dimension and my dimension to actually go late.

Russ: ahh.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent and so this is something you’re going to be kind of getting more skills and experience as you go through the whole body changes and all.

Lyka: uh-huh, yeah.

Russ: any mood swings, morning sickness, cravings?

Lyka: morning sickness in abundance.

Russ: ooohh, what a shame.

Lyka: uh-huh although it started to lessen the last three or four days.

Russ: oh that’s good.

Lyka: I’m no longer doing projectile vomiting.

Russ: a bit of cramps though and….

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: oh my.

Lyka: yeah.

Russ: oh so you feel the body changes taking place and all.

Lyka: uh-huh. I had some bleeding but my doctor assured me that that was perfectly normal.

Russ: yeah.

Lyka: yeah I’ve already got my diet planned out, got my activities planned out….

Russ: ahh excellent.

Lyka: for various stages. I’ve had some great…..I got a visitor……actually I was just coming out of my exam….

Russ: uh-huh.

Lyka: hated that kind of exam, being prodded and poked and pried at.

Russ: ahh of course.

Lyka: came out and a friend of mine that has had many children, she goes, “well we need to talk.” I was sort of like, “oh what about?“ And she goes, “well this is your first.”, Sort of like, ”yes it is” so we sat down and talked for hours.

Russ: oh you’ll be getting lots of talks like that.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: Kiri and Tia, Karra, everyone you know is a mother practically.

Lyka: uh-huh. Well actually Tia said that she can’t be of much help due to the fact that hers was very unusual.

Russ: yeah it was a bit unusual but she did go through many mood changes and things like that you'll be experiencing.....

Lyka: yes she told me.

Russ: yeah.

Lyka: everything from throwing heavy projectiles using PK to stealing blankets and sheets and towels.

Russ: oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember that one.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: making little nests and stuff.

Lyka: yeah she still doesn’t understand the instinctual side of that.

(Tia's genetic roots are feline based)

Russ: right. Well this is great news….

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: congratulations and I look forward to the progressive state of this as it goes along.

Lyka: I am actually, I’m really looking forward to it.

Russ: wow.

Lyka: motherhood from what I’ve heard is very exciting.

Russ: uh-huh. Do you guys practice Lamaze also up there?

Lyka: La....what?

Russ: Lamaze, it’s a breathing exercise you start studying at like I think we do it at our seventh month. I have to go training tomorrow where you practice with the expectant mother, well at least the father as in me, goes and we practice various stages of breathing that you go through during the labor process.

Lyka: nope, you’ve totally lost me.

Russ: oh well the parents are very important here where when you’re in labor, it’s a matter of being able to breathe and control the contractions to a point where it lessens the pain and speeds the delivery along or at least assists it in how you breathe….

Lyka: ahh okay.

Russ: and the husband or the mate goes along to help coach….

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: in the breathing process while it’s all taking place and takes an active part in the birth process itself.

Lyka: that’s preprogrammed.

Russ: oh is it?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: well that’s kind of handy, we have to take six weeks of courses for it.

Lyka: it’s a past life thing.

Russ: oh silly me, of course.

Lyka: it’s actually muscle exercises and stuff.

Russ: right yeah, that’s it.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah pushing and breathing….

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: and so on and so forth. Well I don’t know, I'll find out all about it tomorrow but that’s good, so Leah will kind of be your partner to the birth process.

Leah: uh-huh, yes she doesn’t have access to her past lives, mine have seemed to have accelerated which I think is part of the pregnancy and according to my doctor I am still a little young.

Russ: yeah, you don’t come onto them for another three years right?

Lyka: sorry?

Russ: oh I’m sorry, I thought you were a little younger. Oh I'm thinking Bunny.

Lyka: uh-huh, I was about to say I am 21, I will be 22 in a few weeks.

Russ: right, well I get these mixed up sometimes.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: well anyway, congratulations for all that I’m glad the past lives are coming along too.

Lyka: uh-huh, they normally fully……get full capability of all past lives by 25 so I’ve been looking at the ones that I need.

Russ: motherhood?

Lyka: uh-huh, at the moment so I’m learning.

Russ: excellent.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: wow, this will be a good change.

Lyka: oh yeah, I’m looking forward to it and I’m looking forward to getting back to somewhat of normality. I’m glad that my projectile vomiting is over or pretty much. I didn’t this morning but I did yesterday morning and the morning before I didn’t and the morning before that I didn’t, just felt nauseated those previous two mornings and this morning I felt pretty good actually.

Russ: excellent, well pretty soon the cravings will start.

Lyka: pretty soon?

(Russ starts laughing)

Lyka: try rose petals.

Russ: rose petals? I haven’t tried rose petals.

Lyka: you also ought to try......actually rose petals and the hips kind of have a unique taste to them.

Russ: hmm, I'm wondering if I have seen those.

Lyka: uh-huh. What else have I had? Oh something I really do love at the moment, in fact I’m craving it right now is salmon liver.

Russ: salmon liver?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: you mean like a pâté?

Lyka: no it’s….

Russ: or actually liver of the salmon.

Lyka: it’s liver of the salmon.

Russ: oh, okay. I guess you could make a pâté out of that then also.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: interesting.

Lyka: I absolutely love that.

Russ: what’s it taste like?

Lyka: it’s very smooth, silky taste….

Russ: not fishy?

Lyka: yeah it tastes a little fishy.

Russ: hmm, I have to admit I haven’t had salmon liver in my life.

Lyka: I like it raw, very high in iron.

Russ: okay. Actually that would be a good craving for you then.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: it’s very important for your….

Lyka: yes, most cravings from what I’ve learned are beneficial, they're something your body needs.

Russ: yeah, vitamin C, iron…..

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: definitely. I don’t understand the pickles and ice cream part of it yet. I’m sure there’s something…..

Lyka: you won’t.

Russ: there’s a calcium I’m sure that comes in handy, I don't get the pickle part but.....

Lyka: it’s a flavor thing.

Russ: oh is it?

Lyka: yeah. Things that are bad that I’m going to miss is tea.

Russ: oh no tea, that’s right….

Lyka: uh-huh, yes the caffeine is absolutely terrible.

Russ: yeah, yeah.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: oh what a pity.

Lyka: what else can’t I have? I think that’s about it actually. I’ve got to cut down my meat intake.

Russ: well that’s not bad.

Lyka: no that’s not bad but I always have enjoyed freshly, sliced, almost raw steak.

Russ: hmm.

Lyka: but again, iron in that is good.

Russ: now how is Leah going to be helping you with the pregnancy at all being as it’s a rather unusual kind of situation?

Lyka: unusual in what way?

Russ: well in normally you of course in sixth dimension it's different completely but down here it’s where the male part of the two people would have a role as far as once the baby is born taking care of…..

Lyka: I don’t see any different…

Russ: actually I think you’re probably luckier.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: two women would probably be way easier to raise the child.

Lyka: well there’s also Mark is there that he can help if we need the male influence and I've got a whole entire platoon that I can use.

Russ: that’s true.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: so will this be a future Oath Keeper you think?

Lyka: don’t know but there is one negative side to it.

Russ: what’s that?

Lyka: I was talking to Treene about her daughter.

Russ: yeah.

Lyka: because Treene and myself are very much alike…

Russ: correct yeah because Treene has the same one.....

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: or the same kind of situation.

Lyka: now what is Treene’s daughter?

Russ: Treeny.

Lyka: no she’s totally…..Treeny.

Russ: oh yeah, she’s totally into women.

Lyka: no, no, no, no.

Russ: well she’s sterile……

Lyka: yes.

Russ: if that’s what you mean.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Lyka: and she’s also got a third dimensional life expectancy.

Russ: oh she does?

Lyka: uh-huh. My daughter will be 100% female, female in every aspect. Not any of male chromosomes at all.

Russ: is that what maybe messed up Treeny?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: interesting. So it would all be, is it X?

Lyka: yes, I think so, you’d have to talk to the geneticist that helped to brew up the combination.

Russ: all X, I can see where that might be a little……well I’ll admit, I can’t say.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: we don’t have any history of that down here whatsoever so there's no way to….

Lyka: we really won’t know how much the chromosome imbalance is in there until the fetus is a little bit bigger.

Russ: hmm.

Lyka: but according to the geneticist if I remember correctly, they tried to blend or change Leah’s chromosomal setup which made her very aggressive when we were experimenting, when we were doing the first lot of tests when apparently I got pregnant, she was very aggressive with me.

Russ: hmm.

Lyka: in fact I had bruises and hand prints on my butt and my legs…..actually it was quite enjoyable.

Russ: I can imagine. Don’t women have a bit of the male chromosome in them?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: and that’s gone from when you finally got together on this?

Lyka: yes.

Russ: interesting.

Lyka: uh-huh but there was some manipulation and they're using gene therapy on Leah when we were doing it or on the genes that we had put into the seed so we don’t know how stable those genes are.

Russ: ahh.

Lyka: if they are unstable and revert back to X chromosome, then the child will be 100% female and probably be very much like Treene’s daughter.

Russ: hmm.

Lyka: if they stabilized and stay in the Y configuration, there may be enough there to be able to do gene therapy as she grows older.

Russ: hmm.

Lyka: but we don’t know but it's a risk that we’re prepared to take.

Russ: absolutely. Hmm, well it was done with a lot of love so your child will be definitely someone who is…

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: conceived in love and raised in love.

Lyka: whereas Treene’s daughter was done to fulfill Treene’s desire for a child.

Russ: right so that might have a lot to do with it.

Lyka: uh-huh. She really wanted a child so she did it that way.

Russ: like I say, that could be a major factor.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: so no more sword fighting huh?

Lyka: at the moment I can.

Russ: oh you can?

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: excellent.

Lyka: but I have a big, red patch on my outfit that it reads, “No hit”.

Russ: ahh. Well we can always fence using Mark’s body......just kidding.

Lyka: even in my pregnant state I will kick your butt up here.

Russ: I have no doubt of that. Especially that big no-hit area, I have all-hit area.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: now you’ll still be kept up-to-date and everything with what’s going with the platoon and all?

Lyka: oh yes, with my company.

Russ: yep, excellent.

Lyka: uh-huh. Anyway, I think I better hop off, we have one last speaker who has woken up.

Russ: ahh excellent.

Lyka: uh-huh.

Russ: farewell then and congratulations Lyka.

(Treebeard rouses from his slumber to channel)

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: greetings Treebeard.

Treebeard: miss much not did I?

Russ: no, no, we had some enjoyable conversation, big news here and there….

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: but all in all it was quite an enlightening session.

Treebeard: hmm, give me one moment to wake befuddled mind.

Russ: feel free.

Treebeard: hmm, you want pet to give to bond mate? I have six little gifts that needs home.

Russ: ahh, the rabbits had rabbits.

Treebeard: rabbits did rabbits as is normal.

Russ: excellent, our children would love a rabbit actually.

Treebeard: I think of offering to little Tia but think best not to.

Russ: good call, good call, instincts and all. Anyway, we were discussing chakras and the human body, I’d like to if possible explore a little bit about chakras and the plant kingdom.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: and whether or not the same rules apply between whether a living being such as a human having chakras….

Treebeard: you are talking of different, physical makeup where it is more of spiritual consciousness for tree as opposed to…..yes they being of trees?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: let us say trees of age having chakras.

Russ: ahhh.

Treebeard: chakras do develop but slowly over great time. Also chakra setup inverted.

Russ: inverted?

Treebeard: that word means upside down.

Russ: oh I see. Right, so instead of ours where they face up and down from us…..

Treebeard: with crown chakra for you on top root on bottom, it other way round for trees of great age.

Russ: oh I understand, I understand.

Treebeard: reason being you say you understand not, let us see if you understand.

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: elaborate.

Russ: well, you with a person, you were born as a body and a body would already have the chakras put together but as a tree, you’re going from just a small, little sapling into a tall tree therefore you have less space to work with as the chakras grow.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: therefore, you’d start with the crown chakra and work your way up to a root chakra, though of course root not being the same thing as roots of a tree.

Treebeard: pretty close……..

Russ: okay.

Treebeard: pretty close. I will fill in beings of blank. Chakras so tiny to be non-useful on seedlings and stay way of that for many years. When tree starts to be aware of comings and goings, chakras start to grow and expand but slowly also. It being in your terminology 70 cycles of planet around solar disk, being before chakra even starts to expand.

Russ: hmm.

Treebeard: so chakra and consciousness not necessarily one. Being of my consciousness state and working with devas and talking with devas, theory I being have is that devas have chakras that rotate at a rate that it is phenomenal.

Russ: I understand.

Treebeard: phenomenal being right word?

Russ: that’s right, uh-huh.

Treebeard: reasoning for this assumption is or rather reasoning for this supposition is that deva's time perception and inhabiting spiritual realm would be of higher revolutionary speed for them to shift from one dimensional state to a spiritual state.

Russ: uh-huh. So devas in interaction with trees would actually work with some of the older trees as you say 70 years plus with the tree’s chakras.

Treebeard: uh-huh. 70 cycles being equivalent to a infant.

Russ: right. Now we have some trees that were around at the birth of Christ or Sananda some 2,000 years ago.

Treebeard: you have some species that are far older.

Russ: ahh. So the chakra system in such a tree like that would be even more advanced or at least developed.

Treebeard: than?

Russ: than trees that were a bit younger.

Treebeard: that would be self-evident would it not?

Russ: true. So the question that comes about from that is, how much more aware then would those trees be?

Treebeard: obviously they would be a more aware than a sapling.

Russ: indeed.

Treebeard: or a tree of 70 cycles.

Russ: excellent.

Treebeard: that is self-evident is it not?

Russ: well the point that I’m reaching is, recently in the last week there was a ecological movement down here to save what’s called the Headwaters Forest in the redwood area which is one of the few old growth forests that are down here in the Pacific Northwest.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and an agreement was reached that the land was sold to the government to be held in pituitary or.....

Treebeard: perpetuity.

Russ: perpetuity…..thank a pristine state so people could enjoy them instead of having them cut down for housing and paper. Such a forest then would hold within it a vast amount of awareness.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and a walk through such a forest would be an enlightening experience then would it not?

Treebeard: and a spiritual experience.

Russ: quite right.

Treebeard: you have heard of tropical rain forests?

Russ: absolutely.

Treebeard: do you know what Headwaters Forest is?

Russ: no.

Treebeard: it is a temperate rain forest.

Russ: oh. Which would be a higher elevation then?

Treebeard: no, higher, what is word?

Russ: oh latitude?

Treebeard: yes.

Russ: I see, as you say, it is a spiritual experience and to see them wantonly cut down for purposes that are merely material would be a slap in the face.

Treebeard: but also they are necessary for your construction methods. If correctly cultivated what has been cleared, I think from what I learned from talking with host in his area, they have areas that they fell trees and as fell they replant.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: I think they call them plantation trees?

Russ: yes, reforestation projects.

Treebeard: so as they cut they replant and replace. Understand not why you not do that.

Russ: right. Well I personally feel that there's better things that we could use trees for than for building purposes but I mean we have the means to create artificial trees or artificial things that we make the trees out of for housing and stuff but we continue to use trees instead.

Treebeard: hmm, I do not understand.

Russ: well for example we use beams from trees to create houses whereas we could use plastics or something else to make those and they'd be stronger, resist infestation by termites and wood rot and things like that for thousands of years or at least hundreds of years.

Treebeard: hmm.

Russ: it would be a better material though it’s not biodegradable but when you’re building a house you don’t want it to be anyway.

Treebeard: hmm, I understand what you think and believe and see in your mind and agree but also aesthetics plays a part. Think for a moment on construction of your dwelling.

Russ: uh-huh. Well…..

Treebeard: okay I see what your house made of.

Russ: right.

Treebeard: continue with your elaboration.

Russ: well our house here you see a lot of wood on the outside but most houses are beams that are covered in what's called drywall.....

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: and you never see the wood behind the drywall. You know it’s there but for the life of the house you’ll never see that wood.

Treebeard: uh-huh.

Russ: so what’s the point of using it if you're never going to see it anyway, why not use something that doesn’t destroy our ozone layer by cutting down major portions of what keeps the ozone in place?

Treebeard: uh-huh, I understand concern, I have different concern. You think of cold, I look at your thought processes and see how thick wall are?

Russ: uh-huh.

Treebeard: part of your problem is wall thickness.

Russ: yeah.

Treebeard: you have what we call warm weather home in cold…..


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